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ctk495 on 16 May 2008
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Soriku said:
@ctk

You said KH3 would be the only game that would make you buy a PS3...does this mean you don't have much interest in other PS3 games? Why spend $400-$500 for a PS3 and $60 for the game when you can buy it for the regular price of $50 if it comes on the Wii?

I am not a fanboy of any console,I want it on the ps3 because of the sake of the franchise,so it can move a step forward.So it doesn't lost the style of the gameplay if it goes to the wii then I am sure square will use the motion controller to do stupid and gimmick things and it will ruin the experience for me. I am sure you will say that kh is not about the graphics and that the wii is targetting the same demographic as kh,but I don't really care about that.Apart from that which third party is taking the wii seriously?.The good third party games that come to my head are NMH Zack and wiki and boom blox and those didn't get "stellar" sales.

I can't beleive these fallacies are coming from you. I will reply though.

1 The wii is about 4-6 times more powerful than the ps2. Square Enix is a very very very capable developer and know what they are doing graphically. So are you telling me that KH3 won't advance on the wii despite the wii being this much more powerful?

2 Like I said before, this is SQUARE-ENIX we are talking about. Not some crappy shovelware company. Do you think they will gimic the controls on the wii? Seriously. Now if you are afraid of something new, then you shouldn't be a follower of disruption, because that is exactly what Malstrom talks about with the "End of Gaming" stuff.

3 Finally, Disney doesn't care what you want, and to a lesser extent neither does square enix. If they believe they will make more money on the wii, they most likely will put the game on the wii. If sony fanboys or people who want it on the ps3 don't like it, then they could deal with it.

4You also can't compare No More Heroes, Zack & Wiki, and Boom Blox to Kh3. They are new IPs, while Kh is an established franchise. Kh also has a more mainstream apeal with the disney characters, and let's not forget that it would be on a larger budget than these games. This means more advertisement( which disney will advertise on disney channel like they did with the previouis games), and it would be a game more known to the Wii's audience.

Ok so before you go jumping the gun analize your statements and think about them. Think about how valid they are, or if they are very flawed.

 

 

You are just being blind by your fanboyism sc,just because there are a bunch of rumors that it while be on the wii,doesn't mean it will .Do you have any prove apart from the rumors that it is going to the wii,if you have then please post the link so I can be enlight with the truth. Even the ds has more chances of getting kingdom hearts than the wii,since square enix treats it like a god.Why would SE risk their franchise by switching consoles?.I am sure than maybe the wii can get kh 4,later in it's life.But I won't get my hopes up for kh 3 on the wii if I was you.

 


Did I say that it will be. I was using logic to come to a prediction on what console it will be on. It's all specualtion, like everything else in this thread. You didn't reply to any of my points, and you say I'm using fanboyism when you didn't even support this idea with details. Oh and why did SE risk Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Star Ocean, etc by putting them on the PS brand. Why did they do that? Especially their two largest franchises Final Fantasy, and Dragon Quest. It is you who seems to be illogical even though it's not caused by fanboyism.


Well then I guess this thread shouldn't have been made,it there are no facts or confirmation then there is no reason to continue obviously everyone has a different point of view of things and wants something different,regarding what you said about FF,DQ and SO.It was nintendo's fault has sony done something to repel third parties?.You still haven't answer the question is there any big third party that is taking the wii seriously good third party exclusive game that is not a port, not gimped,no low budget games that sold poorly,not a spin off.

I guess the only one's are MH3 and Tos(they haven't been realease yet).

But MH3 is not so big outside japan and Tos fall between a spin off and a sequel(the main game is going to the 360).

Sega, Capcom, and Namco, are just a few larget publishers/developers taking the wii seriously.

Yes sony is repeling the 3rd party with High Development costs. That's not the point though because the wii is attracting the third party with a larger userbase, more diverse demographics, and cheap developement costs. Oh and the reason why there isn't large exclusives out for the wii yet is because everybody thought it was going to bomb, and it takes years to make a game. That is why we are seeing just some of what is to come in 2009+ for the wii.

Bolded: Mh3 seemed to mean alot to sony fanboys when they were moaning about it being on the wii for a month. Tos isn't a spinoff of vespiria. They are two different series in the tales ip.

 


You just don't give up don't you ?

Bolded:Same old excuse,then why isn't the new prince of persia coming to the wii they have enought time to put it?

Here is a link to ign it is a proof that tales is a spin off and is not part of the mothership tittles.There are also 2 to wikipedia so you can have proof that is a spin off sequel:

http://wii.ign.com/articles/866/866844p1.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tales_RPG_Series

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tales_of_Symphonia

 

 

 

 

You said it was a spinoff of vespiria. Not a spinoff of the first tales of symphonia, which in my opinoin it's more of a sequel. Even if it is a a spinoff doesn't mean it will be a bad game. It could even be better than Tales of Vesperia.

You act like I'm saying every game will be on the wii. The one thing the wii won't get is multiplats with the ps360. This is because the wiis graphics aren't close enough for a port without downgrading. So why isn't the ps360 getting redsteel 2? That is an ubisoft game just like prince of persia is. Most wii games will be exclusives, while most ps360 games will be multiplats.

 

 


Bolded: I guess you misunderstood me,but anyways is obvious that because Vesperia is on the 360 it won't sell good in Japan.

LOL redsteel 2,wasn't redsteel 1 the one that score 6.0 on ign,I wouldn't be excited for a game that it's prequel got a 6 but maybe you are.

Link:

http://wii.ign.com/articles/746/746975p1.html



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sc94597 on 16 May 2008
ctk495 said:
sc94597 said:
Ctk it seems you need to read this article again. http://malstrom.50webs.com/birdman.html
Then think about the wii's third party support, because it seems to me you either didn't read it, or you did, but forgot it.

I was like you but lets be realistic if third parties were serious about the wii they why isn't the new Prince of Persia coming to the wii?,why did ea took that long to port rockband(gimped by the way),wwas like you but lets be realistic if third parties were serious about the wii they why isn't the new Prince of Persia coming to the wii?Why wasn't call of duty 4 on the wii(it wasn't on the ps2).Why is there a version of sonic unleash for a wii but there is also on the ps2?

 " I was like you but lets be realistic if third parties were serious about the wii they why isn't the new Prince of Persia coming to the wii?" Just explained that.

 "was like you but lets be realistic if third parties were serious about the wii they why isn't the new Prince of Persia coming to the wii?"

Shovelware is always on the console winning. The ps2 had it the ds had/ somewhat still has  it, and now the wii has it.  Not all developers are doing this. It's there and developers know the average consumer wouldn't know the difference.

"Why wasn't call of duty 4 on the wii(it wasn't on the ps2)."

Same thing that I said for prince of persia.

"Why is there a version of sonic unleash for a wii but there is also on the ps2?" 

Sonic unleashed main platform is the wii. The game will most likely be ported to the ps360 rather than the other way around.

 "why did ea took that long to port rockband(gimped by the way"

It's EA. YOu really got to pay attention to this next statement. EA is a large monopoly that doesn't care about any console. They care about money. They are one of , if not the worse things ever to happen to gaming.

I said the wii will get more support, not all of it. Most of these have nothing to do with square enix releasing KH3 on the wii anyway.  

 

 

 



ctk495 on 16 May 2008
sc94597 said:
ctk495 said:
sc94597 said:
Ctk it seems you need to read this article again. http://malstrom.50webs.com/birdman.html
Then think about the wii's third party support, because it seems to me you either didn't read it, or you did, but forgot it.

I was like you but lets be realistic if third parties were serious about the wii they why isn't the new Prince of Persia coming to the wii?,why did ea took that long to port rockband(gimped by the way),wwas like you but lets be realistic if third parties were serious about the wii they why isn't the new Prince of Persia coming to the wii?Why wasn't call of duty 4 on the wii(it wasn't on the ps2).Why is there a version of sonic unleash for a wii but there is also on the ps2?

" I was like you but lets be realistic if third parties were serious about the wii they why isn't the new Prince of Persia coming to the wii?" Just explained that.

"was like you but lets be realistic if third parties were serious about the wii they why isn't the new Prince of Persia coming to the wii?"

Shovelware is always on the console winning. The ps2 had it the ds had/ somewhat still has it, and now the wii has it. Not all developers are doing this. It's there and developers know the average consumer wouldn't know the difference.

"Why wasn't call of duty 4 on the wii(it wasn't on the ps2)."

Same thing that I said for prince of persia.

"Why is there a version of sonic unleash for a wii but there is also on the ps2?"

Sonic unleashed main platform is the wii. The game will most likely be ported to the ps360 rather than the other way around.

"why did ea took that long to port rockband(gimped by the way"

It's EA. YOu really got to pay attention to this next statement. EA is a large monopoly that doesn't care about any console. They care about money. They are one of , if not the worse things ever to happen to gaming.

I said the wii will get more support, not all of it. Most of these have nothing to do with square enix releasing KH3 on the wii anyway.

 

 

 


 Well unless I see a game like DMC4 on the wii I will not believe that a big game like Kh3 is coming.



sc94597 on 16 May 2008
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You do realize that red steel was rushed for lauch, and one of the first games to use the new controls on the wii. Ubisoft said that all of the mistakes in red steel 2 will be fixed. Most of what was wrong witht he game was controls because like I said before it was rushed for launch. That is besides the point though. YOu are saying the developers don't care about the wii. If that is so why would they release new ips on the wii.

 



ctk495 on 16 May 2008
sc94597 said:
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You do realize that red steel was rushed for lauch, and one of the first games to use the new controls on the wii. Ubisoft said that all of the mistakes in red steel 2 will be fixed. Most of what was wrong witht he game was controls because like I said before it was rushed for launch. That is besides the point though. YOu are saying the developers don't care about the wii. If that is so why would they release new ips on the wii.

 

Bolded:wat?  Well we could analyze all third party support on the wii but it won't be pretty.The best third party games are both ports re4 and okami.

 



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sc94597 on 16 May 2008
ctk495 said:
 

Well unless I see a game like DMC4 on the wii I will not believe that a big game like Kh3 is coming.

You don't make any sense. How does DMC4 ( a very niche hardcore game) which is a beat em up and has average reviews, relate to KH3 which is a ( a large  mainstreme game) that is an rpg and has above-average reviews? I see no relation at all. Square Enix said they are supporting the wii as a main platform. If the xbox 360 isn't a main platform, and it get's large exclusives, why wouldn't one of their main platforms the wii? Yep they will release spinoffs and remakes on the wii(one of the three main platforms) and then release new ips, and exclusives for the xbox 360. You are comparing square enix to other 3rd parties, yet they aren't the same.

 



sc94597 on 16 May 2008
ctk495 said:
sc94597 said:
snip
You do realize that red steel was rushed for lauch, and one of the first games to use the new controls on the wii. Ubisoft said that all of the mistakes in red steel 2 will be fixed. Most of what was wrong witht he game was controls because like I said before it was rushed for launch. That is besides the point though. YOu are saying the developers don't care about the wii. If that is so why would they release new ips on the wii.

 

Bolded:wat? Well we could analyze all third party support on the wii but it won't be pretty.The best third party games are both ports re4 and okami.

 


 What about no more heroes? Or How bout Zack and Wiki? They aren't good? 



ctk495 on 16 May 2008
sc94597 said:
ctk495 said:
 

Well unless I see a game like DMC4 on the wii I will not believe that a big game like Kh3 is coming.

You don't make any sense. How does DMC4 ( a very niche hardcore game) which is a beat em up and has average reviews, relate to KH3 which is a ( a large mainstreme game) that is an rpg and has above-average reviews? I see no relation at all. Square Enix said they are supporting the wii as a main platform. If the xbox 360 isn't a main platform, and it get's large exclusives, why wouldn't one of their main platforms the wii? Yep they will release spinoffs and remakes on the wii(one of the three main platforms) and then release new ips, and exclusives for the xbox 360. You are comparing square enix to other 3rd parties, yet they aren't the same.

 


I was refering to a big game it was just an example.Just a question if square enix likes the wii so much why are they realising a final fantasy spin off instead of a sequel to one of their main franchises?

By the way dm4 a niche hardcore game?I won't consider a game that sells 1.16 million on the ps3 and 1.01  on the 360 niche.

Link:

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=7684

 

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=7683

ctk495 on 16 May 2008
sc94597 said:
ctk495 said:
sc94597 said:
snip
You do realize that red steel was rushed for lauch, and one of the first games to use the new controls on the wii. Ubisoft said that all of the mistakes in red steel 2 will be fixed. Most of what was wrong witht he game was controls because like I said before it was rushed for launch. That is besides the point though. YOu are saying the developers don't care about the wii. If that is so why would they release new ips on the wii.

 

Bolded:wat? Well we could analyze all third party support on the wii but it won't be pretty.The best third party games are both ports re4 and okami.

 


What about no more heroes? Or How bout Zack and Wiki? They aren't good?


 No more heroes: good  low budget game,poor sales.

Zack and Wiki:The same as NMH. 

 



sc94597 on 16 May 2008
ctk495 said:
sc94597 said:
ctk495 said:
 

Well unless I see a game like DMC4 on the wii I will not believe that a big game like Kh3 is coming.

You don't make any sense. How does DMC4 ( a very niche hardcore game) which is a beat em up and has average reviews, relate to KH3 which is a ( a large mainstreme game) that is an rpg and has above-average reviews? I see no relation at all. Square Enix said they are supporting the wii as a main platform. If the xbox 360 isn't a main platform, and it get's large exclusives, why wouldn't one of their main platforms the wii? Yep they will release spinoffs and remakes on the wii(one of the three main platforms) and then release new ips, and exclusives for the xbox 360. You are comparing square enix to other 3rd parties, yet they aren't the same.

 


I was refering to a big game it was just an example.Just a question if square enix likes the wii so much why are they realising a final fantasy spin off instead of a sequel to one of their main franchises?

By the way dm4 a niche hardcore game?I won't consider a game that sells 1.16 million on the ps3 and 1.01 on the 360 niche.

Link:

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=7684

 

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=7683

Niche doesn't mean only a little bit of people buy it, it means that there is only a certain kind of person who likes it.

 Final Fantasy is all about graphics anymore, Ever since FF10 it's been that way. It will always be for now on. Also I preferred crystal chroncles to 12( I hated 12). So I would love FFCC:TCB. The crystal chroncles series is more of it's own anyways. If you didn't have the name final fantasy in it you wouldn't think of it as a spinoff. If square enix likes the ps3 so much why haven't they announced another game since FFXIII for it yet?