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ctk495 said:
sc94597 said:
ctk495 said:
Soriku said:
@ctk

You said KH3 would be the only game that would make you buy a PS3...does this mean you don't have much interest in other PS3 games? Why spend $400-$500 for a PS3 and $60 for the game when you can buy it for the regular price of $50 if it comes on the Wii?

I am not a fanboy of any console,I want it on the ps3 because of the sake of the franchise,so it can move a step forward.So it doesn't lost the style of the gameplay if it goes to the wii then I am sure square will use the motion controller to do stupid and gimmick things and it will ruin the experience for me. I am sure you will say that kh is not about the graphics and that the wii is targetting the same demographic as kh,but I don't really care about that.Apart from that which third party is taking the wii seriously?.The good third party games that come to my head are NMH Zack and wiki and boom blox and those didn't get "stellar" sales.

I can't beleive these fallacies are coming from you. I will reply though.

1 The wii is about 4-6 times more powerful than the ps2. Square Enix is a very very very capable developer and know what they are doing graphically. So are you telling me that KH3 won't advance on the wii despite the wii being this much more powerful?

2 Like I said before, this is SQUARE-ENIX we are talking about. Not some crappy shovelware company. Do you think they will gimic the controls on the wii? Seriously. Now if you are afraid of something new, then you shouldn't be a follower of disruption, because that is exactly what Malstrom talks about with the "End of Gaming" stuff.

3 Finally, Disney doesn't care what you want, and to a lesser extent neither does square enix. If they believe they will make more money on the wii, they most likely will put the game on the wii. If sony fanboys or people who want it on the ps3 don't like it, then they could deal with it.

4You also can't compare No More Heroes, Zack & Wiki, and Boom Blox to Kh3. They are new IPs, while Kh is an established franchise. Kh also has a more mainstream apeal with the disney characters, and let's not forget that it would be on a larger budget than these games. This means more advertisement( which disney will advertise on disney channel like they did with the previouis games), and it would be a game more known to the Wii's audience.

Ok so before you go jumping the gun analize your statements and think about them. Think about how valid they are, or if they are very flawed.

 

 

You are just being blind by your fanboyism sc,just because there are a bunch of rumors that it while be on the wii,doesn't mean it will .Do you have any prove apart from the rumors that it is going to the wii,if you have then please post the link so I can be enlight with the truth. Even the ds has more chances of getting kingdom hearts than the wii,since square enix treats it like a god.Why would SE risk their franchise by switching consoles?.I am sure than maybe the wii can get kh 4,later in it's life.But I won't get my hopes up for kh 3 on the wii if I was you.

 


Did I say that it will be. I was using logic to come to a prediction on what console it will be on. It's all specualtion, like everything else in this thread. You didn't reply to any of my points, and you say I'm using fanboyism when you didn't even support this idea with details. Oh and why did SE risk Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Star Ocean, etc by putting them on the PS brand. Why did they do that? Especially their two largest franchises Final Fantasy, and Dragon Quest. It is you who seems to be illogical even though it's not caused by fanboyism. 



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ctk495 said:
sc94597 said:
ctk495 said:
Soriku said:
@ctk

You said KH3 would be the only game that would make you buy a PS3...does this mean you don't have much interest in other PS3 games? Why spend $400-$500 for a PS3 and $60 for the game when you can buy it for the regular price of $50 if it comes on the Wii?

I am not a fanboy of any console,I want it on the ps3 because of the sake of the franchise,so it can move a step forward.So it doesn't lost the style of the gameplay if it goes to the wii then I am sure square will use the motion controller to do stupid and gimmick things and it will ruin the experience for me. I am sure you will say that kh is not about the graphics and that the wii is targetting the same demographic as kh,but I don't really care about that.Apart from that which third party is taking the wii seriously?.The good third party games that come to my head are NMH Zack and wiki and boom blox and those didn't get "stellar" sales.

I can't beleive these fallacies are coming from you. I will reply though.

1 The wii is about 4-6 times more powerful than the ps2. Square Enix is a very very very capable developer and know what they are doing graphically. So are you telling me that KH3 won't advance on the wii despite the wii being this much more powerful?

2 Like I said before, this is SQUARE-ENIX we are talking about. Not some crappy shovelware company. Do you think they will gimic the controls on the wii? Seriously. Now if you are afraid of something new, then you shouldn't be a follower of disruption, because that is exactly what Malstrom talks about with the "End of Gaming" stuff.

3 Finally, Disney doesn't care what you want, and to a lesser extent neither does square enix. If they believe they will make more money on the wii, they most likely will put the game on the wii. If sony fanboys or people who want it on the ps3 don't like it, then they could deal with it.

4You also can't compare No More Heroes, Zack & Wiki, and Boom Blox to Kh3. They are new IPs, while Kh is an established franchise. Kh also has a more mainstream apeal with the disney characters, and let's not forget that it would be on a larger budget than these games. This means more advertisement( which disney will advertise on disney channel like they did with the previouis games), and it would be a game more known to the Wii's audience.

Ok so before you go jumping the gun and pressing that post link analize your statements and think about them. Think about how valid they are, or if they are very flawed.

 

 

I don't think Capcom,EA and Grasshopper manufacture are crappy shoveware companies but well that's just my opinion.



 

Bolded:Are you serious?

Was boom blox, no more heroes, and zack and wiki gimmicked. NO. So I'm not refering to them. I'm reffering to the developers who do gimic controls, like ubisoft, and do most of the time make bad games, like Ea(boom blox was an exception).

 



sc94597 said:
ctk495 said:
sc94597 said:
ctk495 said:
Soriku said:
@ctk

You said KH3 would be the only game that would make you buy a PS3...does this mean you don't have much interest in other PS3 games? Why spend $400-$500 for a PS3 and $60 for the game when you can buy it for the regular price of $50 if it comes on the Wii?

I am not a fanboy of any console,I want it on the ps3 because of the sake of the franchise,so it can move a step forward.So it doesn't lost the style of the gameplay if it goes to the wii then I am sure square will use the motion controller to do stupid and gimmick things and it will ruin the experience for me. I am sure you will say that kh is not about the graphics and that the wii is targetting the same demographic as kh,but I don't really care about that.Apart from that which third party is taking the wii seriously?.The good third party games that come to my head are NMH Zack and wiki and boom blox and those didn't get "stellar" sales.

I can't beleive these fallacies are coming from you. I will reply though.

1 The wii is about 4-6 times more powerful than the ps2. Square Enix is a very very very capable developer and know what they are doing graphically. So are you telling me that KH3 won't advance on the wii despite the wii being this much more powerful?

2 Like I said before, this is SQUARE-ENIX we are talking about. Not some crappy shovelware company. Do you think they will gimic the controls on the wii? Seriously. Now if you are afraid of something new, then you shouldn't be a follower of disruption, because that is exactly what Malstrom talks about with the "End of Gaming" stuff.

3 Finally, Disney doesn't care what you want, and to a lesser extent neither does square enix. If they believe they will make more money on the wii, they most likely will put the game on the wii. If sony fanboys or people who want it on the ps3 don't like it, then they could deal with it.

4You also can't compare No More Heroes, Zack & Wiki, and Boom Blox to Kh3. They are new IPs, while Kh is an established franchise. Kh also has a more mainstream apeal with the disney characters, and let's not forget that it would be on a larger budget than these games. This means more advertisement( which disney will advertise on disney channel like they did with the previouis games), and it would be a game more known to the Wii's audience.

Ok so before you go jumping the gun analize your statements and think about them. Think about how valid they are, or if they are very flawed.

 

 

You are just being blind by your fanboyism sc,just because there are a bunch of rumors that it while be on the wii,doesn't mean it will .Do you have any prove apart from the rumors that it is going to the wii,if you have then please post the link so I can be enlight with the truth. Even the ds has more chances of getting kingdom hearts than the wii,since square enix treats it like a god.Why would SE risk their franchise by switching consoles?.I am sure than maybe the wii can get kh 4,later in it's life.But I won't get my hopes up for kh 3 on the wii if I was you.

 


Did I say that it will be. I was using logic to come to a prediction on what console it will be on. It's all specualtion, like everything else in this thread. You didn't reply to any of my points, and you say I'm using fanboyism when you didn't even support this idea with details. Oh and why did SE risk Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Star Ocean, etc by putting them on the PS brand. Why did they do that? Especially their two largest franchises Final Fantasy, and Dragon Quest. It is you who seems to be illogical even though it's not caused by fanboyism.


 Well then I guess this thread shouldn't have been made,it there are no facts or confirmation then there is no reason to continue obviously everyone has a different point of view of things and wants something different,regarding what you said about FF,DQ and SO.It was nintendo's fault  has sony done something to repel third parties?.You still haven't answer the question is there any big third party that is taking the wii seriously good third party exclusive game that is not a port, not gimped,no low budget games that sold poorly,not a spin off.

I guess the only one's are MH3 and Tos(they haven't been realease yet).

But MH3 is not so big outside japan and Tos fall between a spin off and a sequel(the main game is going to the 360). 



sc94597 said:
ctk495 said:
sc94597 said:
ctk495 said:
Soriku said:
@ctk

You said KH3 would be the only game that would make you buy a PS3...does this mean you don't have much interest in other PS3 games? Why spend $400-$500 for a PS3 and $60 for the game when you can buy it for the regular price of $50 if it comes on the Wii?

I am not a fanboy of any console,I want it on the ps3 because of the sake of the franchise,so it can move a step forward.So it doesn't lost the style of the gameplay if it goes to the wii then I am sure square will use the motion controller to do stupid and gimmick things and it will ruin the experience for me. I am sure you will say that kh is not about the graphics and that the wii is targetting the same demographic as kh,but I don't really care about that.Apart from that which third party is taking the wii seriously?.The good third party games that come to my head are NMH Zack and wiki and boom blox and those didn't get "stellar" sales.

I can't beleive these fallacies are coming from you. I will reply though.

1 The wii is about 4-6 times more powerful than the ps2. Square Enix is a very very very capable developer and know what they are doing graphically. So are you telling me that KH3 won't advance on the wii despite the wii being this much more powerful?

2 Like I said before, this is SQUARE-ENIX we are talking about. Not some crappy shovelware company. Do you think they will gimic the controls on the wii? Seriously. Now if you are afraid of something new, then you shouldn't be a follower of disruption, because that is exactly what Malstrom talks about with the "End of Gaming" stuff.

3 Finally, Disney doesn't care what you want, and to a lesser extent neither does square enix. If they believe they will make more money on the wii, they most likely will put the game on the wii. If sony fanboys or people who want it on the ps3 don't like it, then they could deal with it.

4You also can't compare No More Heroes, Zack & Wiki, and Boom Blox to Kh3. They are new IPs, while Kh is an established franchise. Kh also has a more mainstream apeal with the disney characters, and let's not forget that it would be on a larger budget than these games. This means more advertisement( which disney will advertise on disney channel like they did with the previouis games), and it would be a game more known to the Wii's audience.

Ok so before you go jumping the gun and pressing that post link analize your statements and think about them. Think about how valid they are, or if they are very flawed.

 

 

I don't think Capcom,EA and Grasshopper manufacture are crappy shoveware companies but well that's just my opinion.



 

Bolded:Are you serious?

Was boom blox, no more heroes, and zack and wiki gimmicked. NO. So I'm not refering to them. I'm reffering to the developers who do gimic controls, like ubisoft, and do most of the time make bad games, like Ea(boom blox was an exception).

 


 Well from the context it seems like you were refering to them.



ctk495 said:
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Well then I guess this thread shouldn't have been made,it there are no facts or confirmation then there is no reason to continue obviously everyone has a different point of view of things and wants something different,regarding what you said about FF,DQ and SO.It was nintendo's fault has sony done something to repel third parties?.You still haven't answer the question is there any big third party that is taking the wii seriously good third party exclusive game that is not a port, not gimped,no low budget games that sold poorly,not a spin off.

I guess the only one's are MH3 and Tos(they haven't been realease yet).

But MH3 is not so big outside japan and Tos fall between a spin off and a sequel(the main game is going to the 360).

Sega, Capcom, and Namco, are just a few larget publishers/developers taking the wii seriously.

Yes sony is repeling the 3rd party with High Development costs. That's not the point though because the wii is attracting the third party with a larger userbase, more diverse demographics, and cheap developement costs. Oh and the reason why there isn't large exclusives out for the wii yet is because everybody thought it was going to bomb, and it takes years to make a game. That is why we are seeing just some of what is to come in 2009+ for the wii.

Bolded: Mh3 seemed to mean alot to sony fanboys when they were moaning about it being on the wii for a month. Tos isn't a spinoff of vespiria. They are two different series in the tales ip.

 



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Ctk it seems you need to read this article again. http://malstrom.50webs.com/birdman.html
Then think about the wii's third party support, because it seems to me you either didn't read it, or you did, but forgot it.



sc94597 said:
ctk495 said:
sc94597 said:
ctk495 said:
sc94597 said:
ctk495 said:
Soriku said:
@ctk

You said KH3 would be the only game that would make you buy a PS3...does this mean you don't have much interest in other PS3 games? Why spend $400-$500 for a PS3 and $60 for the game when you can buy it for the regular price of $50 if it comes on the Wii?

I am not a fanboy of any console,I want it on the ps3 because of the sake of the franchise,so it can move a step forward.So it doesn't lost the style of the gameplay if it goes to the wii then I am sure square will use the motion controller to do stupid and gimmick things and it will ruin the experience for me. I am sure you will say that kh is not about the graphics and that the wii is targetting the same demographic as kh,but I don't really care about that.Apart from that which third party is taking the wii seriously?.The good third party games that come to my head are NMH Zack and wiki and boom blox and those didn't get "stellar" sales.

I can't beleive these fallacies are coming from you. I will reply though.

1 The wii is about 4-6 times more powerful than the ps2. Square Enix is a very very very capable developer and know what they are doing graphically. So are you telling me that KH3 won't advance on the wii despite the wii being this much more powerful?

2 Like I said before, this is SQUARE-ENIX we are talking about. Not some crappy shovelware company. Do you think they will gimic the controls on the wii? Seriously. Now if you are afraid of something new, then you shouldn't be a follower of disruption, because that is exactly what Malstrom talks about with the "End of Gaming" stuff.

3 Finally, Disney doesn't care what you want, and to a lesser extent neither does square enix. If they believe they will make more money on the wii, they most likely will put the game on the wii. If sony fanboys or people who want it on the ps3 don't like it, then they could deal with it.

4You also can't compare No More Heroes, Zack & Wiki, and Boom Blox to Kh3. They are new IPs, while Kh is an established franchise. Kh also has a more mainstream apeal with the disney characters, and let's not forget that it would be on a larger budget than these games. This means more advertisement( which disney will advertise on disney channel like they did with the previouis games), and it would be a game more known to the Wii's audience.

Ok so before you go jumping the gun analize your statements and think about them. Think about how valid they are, or if they are very flawed.

 

 

You are just being blind by your fanboyism sc,just because there are a bunch of rumors that it while be on the wii,doesn't mean it will .Do you have any prove apart from the rumors that it is going to the wii,if you have then please post the link so I can be enlight with the truth. Even the ds has more chances of getting kingdom hearts than the wii,since square enix treats it like a god.Why would SE risk their franchise by switching consoles?.I am sure than maybe the wii can get kh 4,later in it's life.But I won't get my hopes up for kh 3 on the wii if I was you.

 


Did I say that it will be. I was using logic to come to a prediction on what console it will be on. It's all specualtion, like everything else in this thread. You didn't reply to any of my points, and you say I'm using fanboyism when you didn't even support this idea with details. Oh and why did SE risk Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Star Ocean, etc by putting them on the PS brand. Why did they do that? Especially their two largest franchises Final Fantasy, and Dragon Quest. It is you who seems to be illogical even though it's not caused by fanboyism.


Well then I guess this thread shouldn't have been made,it there are no facts or confirmation then there is no reason to continue obviously everyone has a different point of view of things and wants something different,regarding what you said about FF,DQ and SO.It was nintendo's fault has sony done something to repel third parties?.You still haven't answer the question is there any big third party that is taking the wii seriously good third party exclusive game that is not a port, not gimped,no low budget games that sold poorly,not a spin off.

I guess the only one's are MH3 and Tos(they haven't been realease yet).

But MH3 is not so big outside japan and Tos fall between a spin off and a sequel(the main game is going to the 360).

Sega, Capcom, and Namco, are just a few larget publishers/developers taking the wii seriously.

Yes sony is repeling the 3rd party with High Development costs. That's not the point though because the wii is attracting the third party with a larger userbase, more diverse demographics, and cheap developement costs. Oh and the reason why there isn't large exclusives out for the wii yet is because everybody thought it was going to bomb, and it takes years to make a game. That is why we are seeing just some of what is to come in 2009+ for the wii.

Bolded: Mh3 seemed to mean alot to sony fanboys when they were moaning about it being on the wii for a month. Tos isn't a spinoff of vespiria. They are two different series in the tales ip.

 


You just don't give up don't you ?

Bolded:Same old excuse,then why isn't the new prince of persia coming to the wii they have enought time to put it?

Here is a link to ign it is a  proof that tales is a spin off and is not part of the mothership tittles.There are also 2 to wikipedia so you can have proof that is a spin off sequel:

http://wii.ign.com/articles/866/866844p1.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tales_RPG_Series

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tales_of_Symphonia

 

 



sc94597 said:
Ctk it seems you need to read this article again. http://malstrom.50webs.com/birdman.html
Then think about the wii's third party support, because it seems to me you either didn't read it, or you did, but forgot it.

I was like you but lets be realistic if third parties were serious about the wii they why isn't the new Prince of Persia coming to the wii?,why did ea took that long to port rockband(gimped by the way),why does every multiplatform game has to be on the ps2 to be on the wii?.Why wasn't call of duty 4  on the wii(it wasn't on the ps2).Why is there a version of sonic unleash for a wii but there is also on the ps2?



ctk495 said:
sc94597 said:
ctk495 said:
sc94597 said:
ctk495 said:
sc94597 said:
ctk495 said:
Soriku said:
@ctk

You said KH3 would be the only game that would make you buy a PS3...does this mean you don't have much interest in other PS3 games? Why spend $400-$500 for a PS3 and $60 for the game when you can buy it for the regular price of $50 if it comes on the Wii?

I am not a fanboy of any console,I want it on the ps3 because of the sake of the franchise,so it can move a step forward.So it doesn't lost the style of the gameplay if it goes to the wii then I am sure square will use the motion controller to do stupid and gimmick things and it will ruin the experience for me. I am sure you will say that kh is not about the graphics and that the wii is targetting the same demographic as kh,but I don't really care about that.Apart from that which third party is taking the wii seriously?.The good third party games that come to my head are NMH Zack and wiki and boom blox and those didn't get "stellar" sales.

I can't beleive these fallacies are coming from you. I will reply though.

1 The wii is about 4-6 times more powerful than the ps2. Square Enix is a very very very capable developer and know what they are doing graphically. So are you telling me that KH3 won't advance on the wii despite the wii being this much more powerful?

2 Like I said before, this is SQUARE-ENIX we are talking about. Not some crappy shovelware company. Do you think they will gimic the controls on the wii? Seriously. Now if you are afraid of something new, then you shouldn't be a follower of disruption, because that is exactly what Malstrom talks about with the "End of Gaming" stuff.

3 Finally, Disney doesn't care what you want, and to a lesser extent neither does square enix. If they believe they will make more money on the wii, they most likely will put the game on the wii. If sony fanboys or people who want it on the ps3 don't like it, then they could deal with it.

4You also can't compare No More Heroes, Zack & Wiki, and Boom Blox to Kh3. They are new IPs, while Kh is an established franchise. Kh also has a more mainstream apeal with the disney characters, and let's not forget that it would be on a larger budget than these games. This means more advertisement( which disney will advertise on disney channel like they did with the previouis games), and it would be a game more known to the Wii's audience.

Ok so before you go jumping the gun analize your statements and think about them. Think about how valid they are, or if they are very flawed.

 

 

You are just being blind by your fanboyism sc,just because there are a bunch of rumors that it while be on the wii,doesn't mean it will .Do you have any prove apart from the rumors that it is going to the wii,if you have then please post the link so I can be enlight with the truth. Even the ds has more chances of getting kingdom hearts than the wii,since square enix treats it like a god.Why would SE risk their franchise by switching consoles?.I am sure than maybe the wii can get kh 4,later in it's life.But I won't get my hopes up for kh 3 on the wii if I was you.

 


Did I say that it will be. I was using logic to come to a prediction on what console it will be on. It's all specualtion, like everything else in this thread. You didn't reply to any of my points, and you say I'm using fanboyism when you didn't even support this idea with details. Oh and why did SE risk Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Star Ocean, etc by putting them on the PS brand. Why did they do that? Especially their two largest franchises Final Fantasy, and Dragon Quest. It is you who seems to be illogical even though it's not caused by fanboyism.


Well then I guess this thread shouldn't have been made,it there are no facts or confirmation then there is no reason to continue obviously everyone has a different point of view of things and wants something different,regarding what you said about FF,DQ and SO.It was nintendo's fault has sony done something to repel third parties?.You still haven't answer the question is there any big third party that is taking the wii seriously good third party exclusive game that is not a port, not gimped,no low budget games that sold poorly,not a spin off.

I guess the only one's are MH3 and Tos(they haven't been realease yet).

But MH3 is not so big outside japan and Tos fall between a spin off and a sequel(the main game is going to the 360).

Sega, Capcom, and Namco, are just a few larget publishers/developers taking the wii seriously.

Yes sony is repeling the 3rd party with High Development costs. That's not the point though because the wii is attracting the third party with a larger userbase, more diverse demographics, and cheap developement costs. Oh and the reason why there isn't large exclusives out for the wii yet is because everybody thought it was going to bomb, and it takes years to make a game. That is why we are seeing just some of what is to come in 2009+ for the wii.

Bolded: Mh3 seemed to mean alot to sony fanboys when they were moaning about it being on the wii for a month. Tos isn't a spinoff of vespiria. They are two different series in the tales ip.

 


You just don't give up don't you ?

Bolded:Same old excuse,then why isn't the new prince of persia coming to the wii they have enought time to put it?

Here is a link to ign it is a proof that tales is a spin off and is not part of the mothership tittles.There are also 2 to wikipedia so you can have proof that is a spin off sequel:

http://wii.ign.com/articles/866/866844p1.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tales_RPG_Series

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tales_of_Symphonia

 

 

 

 

You said it was a spinoff of vespiria. Not a spinoff of the first tales of symphonia, which in my opinoin it's more of a sequel. Even if it is a a spinoff doesn't mean it will be a bad game. It could even be better than Tales of Vesperia.

You act like I'm saying every game will be on the wii. The one thing the wii won't get is multiplats with the ps360. This is because the wiis graphics aren't close enough for a port without downgrading. So why isn't the ps360 getting redsteel 2? That is an ubisoft game just like prince of persia is.  Most wii games will be exclusives, while most ps360 games will be multiplats.

 

 



I feel like a sony fanboy the dark side of the force is taking control of me,lol.