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Forums - Gaming - HD vs. Wii: Fanboyism Run Rampant

How it Began

I've been visiting VG Chartz for about five months. I lurked for some time, then joined because I enjoy following the video game industry and I find the environment to be very fun. The forums are a huge part of what makes it fun because as soon as something happens there is commentary and discussion to make the news interactive.

With the recent release of many big titles there is an exceptionally high level of discussion. I've become accustomed to the Nintendomination threads and HDomination threads, and they are usually light enough to be amusing and fun to interact with.

Due to the release of GTA4 and Wii Fit primarily, the fanboyism present in the common thread/internet news story has become detrimental to the community, and potentially video games in general.

Industry Dichotomy

GTA4 and Wii Fit are two unprecedented products that appeal to a wide range of customers. The problem is they belong exclusively to two different groups of consoles, HD and Wii.

The Wii and HD consoles represent different facets of the video game industry. Personal opinion will put one above the other, the truth is they will both push video game technology and video game quality forward; both through innovation. Furthermore, their coexistence is vital to drive the market. See monopoly.

Humans interact with video games through input and output. We look at a screen to see our video game environment. It looks interesting to us so we give commands to keyboards, mice, motion sensors, pointers, and everything standard controllers provide, in order to control something in the on screen environment. What we see is that the two most important aspects of video game technology are graphics and player interface device(s). We also see there is a never ending relationship between the two.

The current generation of console technology is experiencing a new dynamic. The Wii's primary focus is on new higher bandwidth user input devices, while the HD consoles's primary focus is on improving graphics. For video games to move forward both need focus, and equally. It's a shame we can't experience the best of both worlds, but the market has not presented us with that option. On another hand developers are given a chance to focus their efforts into one area. Ignoring the need for innovation in either area, for any reason, is counterproductive to the future of video games.

Looking Forward

This brings us back to the current heavy hitters, the objects of adoration and disdain, GTA4 and Wii Fit. Both of these games offer unique experiences. And both of them achieve these new experiences in vastly different ways. They do have one thing in common, and it is the focal point of both, they are asking the player to interact with video games in a way they never have before.

GTA4 is asking you to interact with an environment that contains an unprecedented level of detail that allows a high level of immersion. Wii Fit takes Nintendo's plan further and asks the player to use their whole body to interact in a multitude of ways with feedback they've never had before. Both games bring the player closer to gaming and both games reach their potential by offering accessibility rarely seen in the industry. Developers have been presented with platforms that are rich with options, and they used them to innovate. We now have the products to show what's possible. Looking forward the industry looks promising.

Leaving Fanboyism Behind

Neither of these games represent the beginning or the end. There have been others and there will be more. But we're at an interesting place in the history of video games, where innovation is being pushed to the front of the scene. While the industry's current dichotomy puts gamers in an awkward position, it's also the reason we're seeing high levels of innovation from developers.

I'm trying to open eyes. I'm trying to remind people why we're here. We love video games. We want to grow old with them and maybe even have their babies (I'm talking about development). Innovation is an important step in moving forward. In this generation fanboyism works directly against innovation. I'm not telling people to not have preferences. There is a reason we root for the home team (Go Wizards!). But I'm never going to wish for and hope for the end of the other team. Especially when they're putting their heart into it and elevating my own performance. In an industry with only two teams (I'm lumping HD consoles), what motivation is there to play if the other team quits? Little to none. Innovation will slow, games will get worse, and the gamers (YOU!) will suffer.

I'll end with this recommendation: be a fan not a fanboy, support the industry, and celebrate innovation. It'll come back to you in a good way.

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I mean I am fine with gaming branching off in two different directions as long as people don't whine when they don't get every game that comes out on other systems because of demographic reasons or because of hardware limitations.

If you want more games like Wii Fit and like Nintendo's offerings and the exclusive third-party stuff, go with the Wii.

If you like games like Halo, GTA4, MGS, etc., go with either a PS3 or a 360.

If you want both, buy both, or all three.

When you buy a console, you buy its good and its bad qualities, so no sour grapes please.



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Fanboyism can get annoying, but I think don't think it's totally wrong. I don't have a problem with the mature gamer, who owns all three systems, bashing one system or another for good reason. I dislike the 14yo gamer who could only afford to buy one system who bashes other consoles because he wants his purchase to "win". Sony, Nintendo and MS like every other company aren't perfect. They ARE capable of putting out a bad product. Calling them on it, like calling out any other company in any business isn't wrong. The gaming industry is not magically created equal. The positives and negatives of these systems don't all equal out to the same value in the end.



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Ok I did my part, I bought No More Heroes, but they were out of Zach and Wiki.

Ok got Zach and Wiki, now if I could just finally finish Twilight Princess so I can play all these Wii games I got waiting. And no I won't buy Okami.

DNF, now there is a game that should have been scrapped completely. Reminds me of a kid whose been in school for 12 years and still doesn't know what he wants to do. At one point you just need to man up and get a job.

The way I see it is I have the right to bash any console I want. No one is gooing to force me to like a console I don't just because it sells well.



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Well this is going well. At least I had a lot of fun writing it.



The war will never end between the GTAIV fanboys and the wiifit fanboys since they are looking for totally different qualities in a video game.

GTA Fanboy: OMG GTA is amazing!!!11!!!!!!1! I can see the herpes on the hooker in such ridiculous detail! Best game ever!

Wiifit Fanboy: Wiifit is a new experience that is pushing the boundaries of gaming. I'm going to go do some yoga.

GTA Fanboy:  Wiifit is so gay, and its not a real game. I'm going to go run over a bunch of monks.

 Wiifit Fanboy: GTA is the same old game with better graphics. All that matters is how fun a game is.

 This will continue until the next Wii/HD big hitters come out. This debate is about as productive as republicans and democrats trying to agree on one candidate for president.



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Riot Of The Blood said:
The way I see it is I have the right to bash any console I want. No one is gooing to force me to like a console I don't just because it sells well.

Not bashing is not the same as liking a system. 



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LordTheNightKnight said:
Riot Of The Blood said:
The way I see it is I have the right to bash any console I want. No one is gooing to force me to like a console I don't just because it sells well.

Not bashing is not the same as liking a system.


Exactly. I really don't like the 360, but you'd never know from my post history. I don't think I've ever once said anything negative towards it, and I certainly don't make it a point to go into threads about it and bitch. It's immature and doesn't accomplish anything except making people mad. Just respect each other's opinions and we'll all be happier. 



I'm disgusted by the Xbox360, and I haven't ever dissed it on this site. None that I can recall anyway lol. The only reason I even have a 360 is because I wanted to play Lost odyssey. Seriously, if Mistwalker was with Sony, don't think I even own the 360 at all. You actually see me giving more crap to the wii here, even though I own it, and enjoy some of its game. I still find it a joke hahaha.