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Zen I don't think racism is the right word here. Try to find a definition on racism that can describe what you're trying to say here.



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madskillz said:

Zenophobe, please, get a clue.

Bill Clinton, Gore and Kerry each earned close to 90 percent of the black vote. Do you know WHY they earned that much? They're Dems. Bush got less than 8-9 percent of the black vote. Blacks rarely vote GOP. They don't agree with the GOP, they have been shafted by the GOP for years.

And yes, they have a very, very long memory. Remember that bag Strom Thurmond? The one that filibustered against civil rights, yet got his creep on with a black woman? He was a Dixiecrat - a Dem at once, but the attitude has always been Republican.

No candidate of the GOP will capture more of the black vote unless he/she can connect with the blacks. I am not talking about Condi/Clarence Thomas/Alan Keyes/insert your favorite black GOP star here - I'm talking about someone who either spent time in the streets helping or being helped - to lure them.

Ever been to a black precinct when voting started? I have. And the GOP religiously counts out the black vote. They overlook the black vote - they bank on getting none of the black vote. Just look at the GOP candidates who wanted to go to Howard for a presidential debate there. Only Ron Paul and a fewer other lesser knowns wanted to go. The front runners? Forget it.

Any Dem will capture that many blacks based on how the Dems have treated them. If New Orleans was a GOP stronghold, the mess with Katrina would have never happened under Bush's watch. Trust me on that ...


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racism-discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of another race
discrimination-Treatment or consideration based on class or category rather than individual merit

You could consider it racism by saying they're not even giving Hillary a real consideration, but that's still guessing at the motives as to why they're voting that way.
Apart from just this even not knowing if it's an accurate assumption or not, from what I've seen so far, I agree with my high school civics teacher. A large portion of the population of the USA vote based first on their impressions/ideas of a candidate, and only sometimes actually consider the candidates real positions on more than a handful of issues.



 

I think the black population voting for a black president isn't racism because they probably have legitimate concerns about whether they can trust a white president to look after their best interests. If Obama was president during Katrina then it probably wouldn't have been nearly as bad a disaster because he would have cared more about the New Orleans population.

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Your argument doesn't really apply since Hillary is also a Democrat and not a Republican.



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I say tomato, you say tomahto.

I say a deep pride for someone with the potential to make history for a group that still faces an uphill battle in life, you say racism.




ok, I guess it doesn't quite rhyme.



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this thread has a point.
It's true that 90% of blacks vote for Dem. (which can be another thread in itself).
but this fact doesn't fit into this thread because Obama and clinton are both Dems.

Bill clinton at one point was considered a "First Black President" so for his wife to only get %10 of black votes is surprising.

racism? Maybe be a harsh word but 90% . . .



If ever there was a Korean running for president, no way in hell 90% of koreans would vote for him/her.



I wouldn't necessarily call it racism. I would call it identity politics. You raised the question if a black candidate was running for the GOP, he would get the vote of the black population. I would beg to differ.

Look at the Leaders of the GOP that happen to be black (eg. Clarence Thomas, J.C. Watts, Condy Rice, Lynn Swan, etc.). They have all been called Uncle Toms. I mean they aren't forgetting their heritage, but rather see things differently and they get attacked by the Democrat machine for being "Off the reservation," if you will.

The fact is that Democrats promise things to the minorities, and rarely finish the promise, but give them just enough to show that they "care." In this way they keep their votes locked up. Also this is the reason why the minorities (specifically blacks) don't attempt the same level of success as other minorities. They are promised these things and (may) feel like they just have to wait for someone to help them, instead of taking the initiative to get themselves up.

I am not an expert in this, but that is at least what I think.



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