the-pi-guy said:
Yes conservatives seem to view other people's children as a burden, and don't want to do anything to help them out. |
The irony here is that they are also the ones who promote more child births, even if that child is born out of rape and will enter a lifestyle of drugs, alcohol and abuse.
They want the children. But don't want the responsibility... Sadly they aren't intelligent enough to understand that you don't get it both ways.
hellobion2 said: Overall with everything in politics I was wondering if anyone else here decides not to vote like myself. |
It honestly baffles me how it's not a legal requirement to vote in the united states.
You get a hefty fine if you don't vote here in Australia.
But I guess not voting is a vote in of itself... It's just a null vote, so it favours the individual who has more votes.
The_Yoda said:
I think both Biden and Trump suck, each scary in their own way. |
All politicians have Pro's and Con's.
My suggestion is... Throw the idea and terms like "Republican" and "Democrat" out the window... And base your vote on who brings the most positive impacts to your life and lifestyle.
Robert_Downey_Jr. said: Yeah I'm a results guy. Russia's invasion started once Biden got in. Immigration was under control before. I have about 1/40th the wealth I had when Biden took office and businesses all around agree, the economy sucks no matter what the numbers on the TV says. Nobody has money. The world is on the brink of WW3 and all the people that we were fearmongered would be aggressive with Trump have been moreso under Biden. Also Biden did the slimiest thing ever by taking credit for jobs "created" by lifting shutdowns. What a bunch of BS inflated numbers. |
Got a few blatant lies here.
1) Russian invasion of Ukraine started to occur in 2014, when Obama was in power when Russia STOLE Crimea from Ukraine.
- Donbas incursion also started in 2014.
- A treaty was signed in 2015, but was never ratified, if Trump was even remotely useful he would have pushed for that treaty during his term, but failed to do so.
- In 2017/2018 during the Trump administration, Trump allowed Russia to detain Ukraine vessels in Kirch Strait.
- In 2019 during the Trump administration, 110 Ukrainian soldiers were killed by Russia in the Donbas.
- In 2021 Russia started a MASSIVE military buildup along Ukraine borders which would be the start of the big invasion that we have all come to know.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukrainian_War
2) Border policy is something I tend to have a conservative view on. I agree with Trumps policy, but I disagree that "immigration was under control".
It may have been better in places, but the system ended up being extremely back logged, under pressure and under-resourced.
Ironically, the USA statistically had it's lowest illegal immigrant numbers under Obama.
I do agree that a strong border is a requirement, but Trump building a "massive wall" like no-other failed to materialise and was even downgraded to a mere fence in places.
He also lied when he said he would get Mexico to pay for it.
https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2024/01/24/americas-border-crisis-summarised-in-ten-charts
3) The USA's financial crisis is a cumulative issue.
Barrack Obama stupidly increased debt by 9.3 Trillion... But that took him 8 years.
Donal Trump stupidly increased debt by 7.8 Trillion. But that only took 4 years.
Biden is nowhere near these two yet.
What this means is that debt wise... Trump failed to pay down the debt like he promised.
But debt is also not the devil either, especially when you are a sovereign nation with control over your currency, inflation devalues debt over time... But more debt means more printed money, which means more inflation.
The inflation issue is a world-wide issue due to run-away spending by all governments to cover costs during the Pandemic with added pressures from Agriculture, Manufacturing and Logistics placing large supply chain pressures, driving up costs.
https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/which-presidents-added-most-national-debt/
https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/111414/does-inflation-favor-lenders-or-borrowers.asp
The United States for example could pay all it's debts tomorrow if it wanted by printing excessive amounts of money driving up inflation, but your economy would also implode.
A balance needs to be struck... And Trump failed on that.
4) Biden took credit by removing restrictions which led to job growth? I mean, why not? It happened under his term.
The issue I see is that Trump is a narcissist... Whenever something "good" happens, even if it's outside his term, he takes credit for it.
If something "bad" happens during his term, it's always someone elses fault.
So where do you draw the line on blame and praise shifting?
I also find it comically funny how Trump will attack other politicians... For example:
"Rosie O’Donnell’s disgusting. I mean, both inside and out. You take a look at her, she’s a slob."
But then will whinge, cry and complain if it's returned in kind:
I.E: "“o politician in history, and I say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/17/donald-trump-presidency-media-coverage-russia-scandal
Which proves he is a narcissist.
Read what the signs are here:
https://www.mindbodygreen.com/articles/14-signs-of-narcissism
Robert_Downey_Jr. said: I am thinking for myself. People on the TV and some numbers say everything is great. I ain't parodying that. I'm going by what I see and hear around me here in Western PA and what I see happening in other nations. We had peace, energy independence, and spending power with Trump. Biden shouldn't have taken credit for the jobs that came back post lockdown if he didn't want blame for the spending power lost. Can't take the benefits that make your numbers look good without taking the blame on that stuff. It's either all you or none of it is. |
Everyone literally thinks for themselves.
Everyone literally gets their information from another source... We tend not to be researchers or scientists, we are literally consumers of media, even vgchartz is a form of mainstream media.
Then we use those sources of information to formulate certain stances and ideas on various topics.
The whole "I don't watch TV" is thus irrelevant.
You may be "switched off" to one type of media, but you are still blasted by it 24/7.
Turn on your car radio while going to work. - Mainstream media.
Jump on your phone and peruse Facebook. - Mainstream media.
Jump on a tablet and load up Youtube to watch a few videos? - Also mainstream media.
Go for a walk down the road? - You probably see billboards with various messaging, that is also mainstream media.
We live in a world dominated by mainstream media, TV isn't where it starts and stops... And those who claim they are "awake" because they ignore one type of media, but fornicate over another, simply aren't.
The only *real* way to get accurate, verifiable, repeatable information is by supporting the scientific method and scientific findings and scientific conclusions.
As for Trump... Speaking as one of the USA's closest allies and living independently of the USA, Trump made the USA look like a joke, he was a comedy act that just kept on giving.
And even though Biden seems incompetent, he has kept things stable and respectful.
I wouldn't want either of those candidates running my country, but I guess they are better than SCOMO that we had.
Another issue I have with Trump is that he will *constantly* repeat the same mistruths and false information until people literally start to believe it. Aka. Reality distortion field.
Any presidential candidate that has a criminal conviction should also be ineligible to run a nation. Any nation.
And trump has criminal convictions now.
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