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Facebook now allows attacks on immigrants and trans people, and posts like “Mexican immigrants are trash!” and “I’m a proud racist.”

Meta is now granting its users new freedom to post a wide array of derogatory remarks about races, nationalities, ethnic groups, sexual orientations, and gender identities, training materials obtained by The Intercept reveal.

Examples of newly permissible speech on Facebook and Instagram highlighted in the training materials include:

  • "Immigrants are grubby, filthy pieces of shit."
  • "Gays are freaks."
  • "Look at that tranny (beneath photo of 17 year old girl)."

At times, the provided examples appear convoluted or contradictory. One page notes "generalizations" about any group remain prohibited if they make a comparison to animals or pathogens — such as "All Syrian refugees are rodents." But comparisons to "filth or feces" are now downgraded from hate speech to a less serious form of "insult," which violates company rules only if directed at a protected group. According to examples provided by Meta, this change now allows users to broadly dehumanize immigrants with statements like like "Immigrants are grubby, filthy pieces of shit," despite language elsewhere in the document that claims "comparisons to subhumanity" remain banned.

The company's policy around nausea-based hate follows a particularly fine line: "Migrants are no better than vomit" is allowed, according to the materials, while "Muslims make me want to throw up" ought to be removed because it claims a group "causes sickness.

While general comparisons to animals are still against the rules, many other kinds of broad, hateful stereotyping is now allowed. "ALL behavioral statements (qualified and non-qualified)" are also now no longer against Meta's rules, the document reads, allowing sweeping generalizations connecting entire races or ethnic groups to criminality or terrorism. The document offers as examples of acceptable racial generalizations: "These damn immigrants can't be trusted, they're all criminals," "I bet Jorge's the one who stole my backpack after track practice today. Immigrants are all thieves," and "Japanese are all Yakuza." It notes, however, that the statement "Black people are all drug dealers" remains prohibited under the new rules.

Other sections of the materials provide examples of forbidden "insults about sexual immorality," such as "Jewish women are slutty." But the document also provides ample examples of newly permissible insults aimed at specific gender identities or sexual orientations, including "Gay people are sinners" and "Trans people are immoral." A post stating "Lesbians are so stupid" would remain prohibited as a "mental insult," though "Trans people are mentally ill" is marked as allowed.

While many of the examples and underlying policies seem muddled, the document shows clarity around allowing disparaging remarks about transgender people, including children. Noting that "'Tranny' is no longer a designated slur and is now non-violating," the materials provide three examples of speech that should no longer be removed: "Trannies are a problem," "Look at that tranny (beneath photo of 17 year old girl)," and "Get these trannies out of my school (beneath photo of high school students)."

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These examples are even worse than what I imagined, holy shit, Zuckerberg is fucking scum.

Tech billionaires as soon as Trump wins: "Lets become bigoted, fascist cunts!"

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Ryuu96 said:

Facebook now allows attacks on immigrants and trans people, and posts like “Mexican immigrants are trash!” and “I’m a proud racist.”

...

Leaked Doc: New Rules Allow Slurs on Facebook, Meta Platforms

‘It’s Total Chaos Internally at Meta Right Now’: Employees Protest Zuckerberg’s Anti LGBTQ Changes

These examples are even worse than what I imagined, holy shit, Zuckerberg is fucking scum.

Tech billionaires as soon as Trump wins: "Lets become bigoted, fascist cunts!"

It's disgusting and I already deleted my alt FB account (should have done a long time ago)

Can't delete my main as FB messenger is how my family in The Netherlands contacts me. They use WhatsApp more but I have no smart phone and that's by Meta as well so no desire to sign up for that at all.

I prefer Discord nowadays, still independent for now although it has its own share of questionable issues.

Bring back AOL (AIM) or MSN Messenger. Social platforms are a fail.



SvennoJ said:
Ryuu96 said:

Facebook now allows attacks on immigrants and trans people, and posts like “Mexican immigrants are trash!” and “I’m a proud racist.”

...

Leaked Doc: New Rules Allow Slurs on Facebook, Meta Platforms

‘It’s Total Chaos Internally at Meta Right Now’: Employees Protest Zuckerberg’s Anti LGBTQ Changes

These examples are even worse than what I imagined, holy shit, Zuckerberg is fucking scum.

Tech billionaires as soon as Trump wins: "Lets become bigoted, fascist cunts!"

It's disgusting and I already deleted my alt FB account (should have done a long time ago)

Can't delete my main as FB messenger is how my family in The Netherlands contacts me. They use WhatsApp more but I have no smart phone and that's by Meta as well so no desire to sign up for that at all.

I prefer Discord nowadays, still independent for now although it has its own share of questionable issues.

Bring back AOL (AIM) or MSN Messenger. Social platforms are a fail.

Meta is the reason I avoided Threads and thankfully I don't have an Instagram either.

I do have a Facebook account but I never use it and sign in like once every few months, Lol. I'm more convinced than ever to delete it but it's my only link to a lot of family members and friends, I have WhatsApp too but in the UK it's hard not to have WhatsApp considering how practically everyone uses it for messaging now. But yeah Discord is like 90% of my social presence now, Lol.

All these unregulated social media platforms are going to doom us, humanity will become even more stupid, even more manipulated and they'll be nowhere to go to avoid all the disgusting hate which billionaires will not only look the other way on but actively encourage because as long as people are busy attacking each other for stupid shit, nobody is attacking the billionaires while they bleed the world dry.

I will say though I avoided deleted Twitter for months but when I finally did it was pretty damn easy to move on, to the point where, I think if Bluesky goes to shit I will just remember how easy it was to abandon Twitter and dump Bluesky too, I don't really feel the need to be on social media anymore. But nothing lasts forever, MSN was killed by Skype, Skype was killed by Discord, Myspace was killed by Facebook, Twitter is only being kept alive because Musk has other revenue streams and even unprofitable it's useful for the Republican Party, I hope Facebook one day dies.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 10 January 2025

Of course Trump would be willing to use military force to acquire Greenland, the Panama canal and possibly even Canada. Anyone who says otherwise is painfully naive. Everything he has been doing throughout his political carreer shows that no method is below his level of dignity, when it comes to trying to get what he wants. We were also told that he would never actually deny a election result, even though he said he would. How did that turn out? How dumb are you people?
Of course military force would not be the first method he would use, he will first try with threats and economic warfare.



shavenferret said:

It will be ok,  i promise.  I think that there are enough rational people in politics to keep Trump in line with the whole checks and balances thing.  

I remember when we had rational people in government who lied and convinced the entire country we should go to war with Iraq. 


I have a lot less faith in the government's ability to have checks and balances today, than I would have back then.  



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Is the fire in LA crazy situation or something?

So.....

Mayer she cut budgets for the fire department by over $17m.
Decides the fire department is "too white" (not diverse enough). So they fire some fire fighters, and start trying for more diverse fire fighters (women, and men of color).
However these people are still in the training phase.
Then there is a lack of equipment because they sent some to Ukraine (ontop of the budget cuts, might be a while before their stock is back to normal).
There is the situation with fire hydrants not having water pressure enough to be used to fight the fires with.
Why? because they diverted water away, from a river to protect a small fish that is at risk of dying out.
Also to be green, they didn't clear out Forrest area/tree's near towns.


The mayer is apparently out of the country as this fire spreads....
When she gets back, the mayer holds a speech, when saying "where" to find help on tv, she just says at URL (from the teleprompter, instead of giving the internet site)
These are people that had their homes burn down, and need to know where to find shelter ect.
You find out the entire US has like 20 water bombers and they're all private contracts and shit's apparently not easy to co-ordinate. So they weren't really used at all.

its all just one big clusterf***.... right?


Also this was something Joe Rogan warned about in mid-2024, said he talked to a fighter fighter, that said this could very well happen and they would not be able to do a damn thing about it. It's mostly just luck, that kept this from happening earlier.

video from nuxanor on it :   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhrd2CP5Rns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzF6n91CYeo

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Crazy that some people are purposefully setting fires themselves.... and likewise people are going on looting spree's.... wtf?

Last edited by JRPGfan - on 10 January 2025

Vinther1991 said:

Of course Trump would be willing to use military force to acquire Greenland, the Panama canal and possibly even Canada. Anyone who says otherwise is painfully naive. Everything he has been doing throughout his political carreer shows that no method is below his level of dignity, when it comes to trying to get what he wants. We were also told that he would never actually deny a election result, even though he said he would. How did that turn out? How dumb are you people?
Of course military force would not be the first method he would use, he will first try with threats and economic warfare.

I think the world at large would not take it.... then again, I think the USA has the power to beat the entire world, if it wants to fight everyone.

Also, when was the last time a country was conquered? Does the USA really to go that far, in the claims of "world peace" ?
I think Greenland is happy as is, its independent goverment but apart of Denmark. We support it financially (its a small country population wise).

Honestly I think this is the oil situation all over again.
It has oil? it needs american freedom! goes to fight wars for freedom (but mostly to secure oil access).
Its rich in minerals? as the ice melts, it might be possible to mine all that! we must own greenland.... think of the riches! I mean... world peace!

edit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8YXQzVTySU

one of the replies in the comment section reads:

Greenland belongs to the people of Greenland!
Greenland is currently an autonomous region within the Kingdom of Denmark. We are Danish citizens. Our dream is full independence. Together with Denmark we stood by US when they evoked article 5 for the first time in History, we fought by your side for decades and lost proportionally the same as you did in in the wars we fought together. Now you wanna backstab us??

We, most emphatically, DO NOT want to become another, abused, neglected overseas territory of the US. The idea that you can just send someone in here with a bunch of money and we’d sell our country, is ludicrous. All we have to do is to see how the US has, and is treating its indigenous populations in Alaska and in the continental US. We have no illusions about being treated any differently under US rule.

Greenland has formally been a territory of Denmark since 1721, long before the U.S. was even a sovereign country. In 1979, Greenland got autonomy and a Home Rule government was elected. This was achieved, not through bloodshed and war but through peaceful negotiations. A situation pretty unique in a world where most colonized people have had to pay for any independence with their blood.

The authority of the Government of Greenland, and its parliament, was further expanded in 2009. The Greenland government and parliament make unilateral decisions on almost all domestic issues. The members of the parliament are elected every four years through free and fully democratic elections. However, some areas are still determined by Denmark such as defense, foreign policy, citizenship, and the judiciary system. Denmark does not, however, enact or decide any laws in these areas that concern Greenland without consulting first with our own lawgivers.

The ties between Greenland and Denmark go way beyond history, politics or money. There are many deep family ties. Many people in Greenland have a Danish ancestor or ancestors or Danish family members. Our society is modeled on the Scandinavian system of tax payed healthcare, education, social services etc.

Currently Denmark subsidizes Greenland annually with the equivalent of around 600 million US dollars. To think that the US would ever willingly pay even a fraction of that to Greenland is insanely naive. The US has never paid as much as a penny in rent to Greenland for the land they have annexed/occupied for their military bases.

The US already strategically controls Greenland, through their military base in the northern part of Greenland. There is no chance of the Russians or the Chinese coming in here with any military might. No, trump isn’t worried about the Russians or the Chinese coming to Greenland. That is an excuse.

No, he wants full control so he can strip mine Greenland with impunity of any and all mineral wealth, raping her blind and leaving nothing but death, destruction and pollution in his wake. This is what his MAGA goons mean when they talk about “development”.

We don’t want your system of government, we don’t want your model of society with its crazed gun culture, insane medical bills and costly education only for the rich. You have no freedoms that we don’t already have. Our society is not perfect, but yours is definitely not worthy of emulation. We can’t do much if the orange menace wants to act like Hitler and annex/occupy us. Our population is small and not heavily armed. But such an aggressive act towards a friendly, peaceful neighbor and ally, would certainly not win the US any new friends on the world stage.

They would probably lose several of the ones they have now as other countries would justifiable fear a U.S. take over. Trump may think he’s joking or that it’s fun to threaten the sovereignty of other sovereign nations as he has done to Canada, Greenland, Panama and Mexico. But this kind of rhetoric is dangerous in a world as volatile as ours. To dismiss his comments is foolish, as he, like Hitler did, has plenty of followers who are ready and willing to carry out his wishes of a violent take over of territories not belonging to the US. The US under trump would gain far more through peaceful coexistence and trade…and as our leaders in Greenland have stated: We are open for business, but we are definitely not for sale and I`ll fight for my country so bring it on anyhow you like..

^ as a dane, this guy basically mirrors my own thoughts on the matter lol.

(apart from the "so bring it on anyhow you like" mentality..... the USA could easily wipe out like 100,000 civilians that are barely armed if they wanted too. Its done, greenland is now american! hurray!)

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JRPGfan said:

Is the fire in LA crazy situation or something?

So.....

Mayer she cut budgets for the fire department by over $17m.
Decides the fire department is "too white" (not diverse enough). So they fire some fire fighters, and start trying for more diverse fire fighters (women, and men of color).
However these people are still in the training phase.
Then there is a lack of equipment because they sent some to Ukraine (ontop of the budget cuts, might be a while before their stock is back to normal).
There is the situation with fire hydrants not having water pressure enough to be used to fight the fires with.
Why? because they diverted water away, from a river to protect a small fish that is at risk of dying out.
Also to be green, they didn't clear out Forrest area/tree's near towns.


The mayer is apparently out of the country as this fire spreads....
When she gets back, the mayer holds a speech, when saying "where" to find help on tv, she just says at URL (from the teleprompter, instead of giving the internet site)
These are people that had their homes burn down, and need to know where to find shelter ect.
You find out the entire US has like 20 water bombers and they're all private contracts and shit's apparently not easy to co-ordinate. So they weren't really used at all.

its all just one big clusterf***.... right?


Also this was something Joe Rogan warned about in mid-2024, said he talked to a fighter fighter, that said this could very well happen and they would not be able to do a damn thing about it. It's mostly just luck, that kept this from happening earlier.

video from nuxanor on it :   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhrd2CP5Rns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzF6n91CYeo

The rest of America has been expecting this.  They give so much help for the homeless but don't provide for the basics.

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JRPGfan said:

Is the fire in LA crazy situation or something?

So.....

Mayer she cut budgets for the fire department by over $17m.

Been going over the standard of equipment you guys have, which is frankly rather comical.
Many of your fireground practices are outdated and put firefighters at risk, let alone the equipment to keep them safe.

What we implemented here was an "Emergency Services Levy" so all landowners pay a tax every year, with those funds going straight to the fire and rescue services and infrastructure.
Yes it's another tax... But we have the best equipment in the world because of it.

JRPGfan said:

Decides the fire department is "too white" (not diverse enough). So they fire some fire fighters, and start trying for more diverse fire fighters (women, and men of color).

This is irrelevant. You still need to pass the physical and mental aptitude tests anyway.
Some of the best firefighters I have worked with have been women.

People need to stop whinging about "equal opportunity" schemes, it's not "woke", they still need to pass the damn tests.

JRPGfan said:

However these people are still in the training phase.

I am not entirely sure how the training is structured over there, but for wildland fire response we require what is known as "Basic Firefighting". - That grants you permission with the necessary competency to jump on a truck and head to an incident, you obviously have zero autonomy or understanding of things like fire behavior.
It's a weekend course.

The rest of the training is staggered over time to increase their scope of responding. I.E. Compartment fire behaviour, breathing apparatus, marine rescue, swift water, sector command and control etc'.

Considering we have the worlds worst fire conditions and don't suffer casualties, we must be doing something right.

JRPGfan said:

Then there is a lack of equipment because they sent some to Ukraine (ontop of the budget cuts, might be a while before their stock is back to normal).

Every year our fire service collates older equipment (Fire trucks, uniforms, hoses etc') and donates it to island and 3rd world nations, so we can cycle towards newer gear.
Ukraine isn't at fault here, policy makers are at fault for not having a replacement plan.

JRPGfan said:

There is the situation with fire hydrants not having water pressure enough to be used to fight the fires with.

You must always fight a fire with the understanding you cannot use urban infrastructure, it's convenient if it's there, just don't expect it to always be available... Because often cars are parked on hydrants, or you cannot access an underground standpipe access point because councils have covered it with road tar.

You need extra equipment and training to be self sufficient, floating collar dams, bulk water carriers, drafting equipment and more.

JRPGfan said:

Why? because they diverted water away, from a river to protect a small fish that is at risk of dying out.
Also to be green, they didn't clear out Forrest area/tree's near towns.

Clearing out the vegetation is certainly going to help.
The issue with L.A. is that it's prolific with Blue-Gums, this is Australian vegetation, the tree's have leaves which are full of combustible oils, the tree's evolved so that they can propagate fire as that's how it germinates it's seeds to spread and grow.

But that's only going to get you so far, once fire crowns on these tree's, it's going to spread, no amount of back burning of fuel reduction is going to help you.
Welcome to Australian fire behavior, this is a continental wide issue, L.A. needs to adopt our fireground practices if it's going to successfully engage with our vegetation, we implement it for a reason.

As for protecting your water ways, that should always be a priority, but there needs to be a plan in place so that firefighting efforts are never impacted, clearly that wasn't the case here.

JRPGfan said:


The mayer is apparently out of the country as this fire spreads....
When she gets back, the mayer holds a speech, when saying "where" to find help on tv, she just says at URL (from the teleprompter, instead of giving the internet site)

Mayor should be fired if they aren't available during a massive emergency.

JRPGfan said:

You find out the entire US has like 20 water bombers and they're all private contracts and shit's apparently not easy to co-ordinate. So they weren't really used at all.

Many of the water bombers the USA have are contracted and seasonal, during the winter season in the USA, many head to Australia to assist with our summer so the pilots have work all year round.
I've had to coordinate water bombers at many jobs, so I have had some very interesting discussions with the pilots.

And the biggest issue is that there is a BIG disconnect between the water bombers and the crew on the ground in the USA, there is often zero communication or support from ground crews.
When we have sent Incident Management Teams from Australia to the USA, our main goal has always been to build that hierarchy and collaboration between different services (Paid, Volunteer, Water Bombers, Plant Operators, Urban and Wildland firefighters etc.)
Here the strike team commander can and will dictate where bombers drop payloads for maximum effect and to keep firefighters out of harms way, boots on the ground is often your best source of information in large incidents.

There is also a changing of climate, so unseasonably warm, dry and high-winds will become more common during winter seasons which is going to drive these kinds of events, which likely also means there needs to be a change in how fire response is handled, here it doesn't matter what day of the year it is... Once the fire danger index reaches a certain threshold (Dictated by the level of curing of Vegetation, wind speed, relative humidity etc') then the state enters a total fire ban with resources on standby. - Normally our fire danger window is the 1st of November until the 15th of April, but there has been times where that was brought forward or extended by several months.

JRPGfan said:


Also this was something Joe Rogan warned about in mid-2024, said he talked to a fighter fighter, that said this could very well happen and they would not be able to do a damn thing about it. It's mostly just luck, that kept this from happening earlier.

Ignoring the fact that Joe Rogan is not a firefighter and has zero experience in this field... And is mostly just a political mouth piece...
Yes this can happen. Yes L.A. was not prepared.

Rural Urban interface fires are extremely complex and the response plans to coordinate resources was non-existent, but the lack of equipment and infrastructure was also non-existent.

If the USA isn't going to do anything about Climate Change, then you need to give first responders the necessary equipment to deal with the end result.

Hopefully the end result of this "event" is that it ends up being a wake-up call for the USA, just like the 2019 fires was for Australia.

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Thanks for the post Perma.

Seeing the images of this fire is really jarring.
Its like some apocalyptic scene from a movie or horror game.

You guys that brave this, to keep people safe, do a amazing thing.