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Pi, no one in this forum makes me laugh more than your posts.

You try to play both sides of the aisle....but in the END....

You only CONTRADICT yourself....

Please Pi, for the love of GOD....STOP playing both sides of the aisle.....I like you, your a good man, I agree with your posts 90% of the time.

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One last thought......Why do I get the feeling that all of you mods that post in the "US Politics" thread are in cahoots?

PROVE ME WRONG !!!!!!!!!!!

Show me one instance where one mod DISAGREED with another mod in this thread.  I await your answer.

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BFR said:

Pi, no one in this forum makes me laugh more than your posts.

You try to play both sides of the aisle....but in the END....

You only CONTRADICT yourself....

Please Pi, for the love of GOD....STOP playing both sides of the aisle.....I like you, your a good man, I agree with your posts 90% of the time.

Where do you think I am contradicting myself?

I'm a left winger, I believe in equality and freedom for people. 

BFR said:

One last thought......Why do I get the feeling that all of you mods that post in the "US Politics" thread are in cahoots?

PROVE ME WRONG !!!!!!!!!!!

Show me one instance where one mod DISAGREED with another mod in this thread.  I await your answer.

Who are all of us mods? I'm pretty sure it's mostly just Ryuu and I. The other mods get involved a lot less heavily. 

But I think Ryuu and I are politically the most similar, and have a similar penchant for stubborn conversation. Although I'm a lot more stubborn than Ryuu. 

We don't have to be in cahoots, I've read enough of his posts that I generally understand where he's coming from. The last private message we have shared was about 8 days ago. 



"Where do you think I am contradicting myself?"

In the beginning, you inferred the CDC's $8000 picnic tables were a good purchase.

Next, you inferred their purchase was questionable.

At the end of the day, you came full circle and said, yeah those tables were a bad idea. I was just messing with you.
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Now don't quote me WORD FOR WORD, but that was the jist of your argument about those CDC picnic tables.



I could easily list all of your names that are in cahoots in the "US Politics" thread. But, I won't out of respect.



BFR said:

"Where do you think I am contradicting myself?"

In the beginning, you inferred the CDC's $8000 picnic tables were a good purchase.

Next, you inferred their purchase was questionable.

At the end of the day, you came full circle and said, yeah those tables were a bad idea. I was just messing with you.
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Now don't quote me WORD FOR WORD, but that was the jist of your argument about those CDC picnic tables.

This was like 4 pages ago. And this was my first comment on the matter.

the-pi-guy said:

NYPost claims it was for "roughly" 30 tables, so roughly ~$8000 per table. 

A waste sure.

I barely said anything about the picnic tables. 

You mostly were talking to Torillian about the picnic tables? 



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"You mostly were talking to Torillian about the picnic tables?"

The convo started with Tor, but soon after....it switched to you.



Ha ha on me. Looks like you were against it before you were for it. (sucks getting old :)



the-pi-guy said:

NYPost claims it was for "roughly" 30 tables, so roughly ~$8000 per table. 

A waste sure.

the-pi-guy said:
BFR said:

Here's another option for them:

PLUSPLUS

Now they can charge their devices while eating lunch.

Then it starts a fire, burns down the nearest buildings, causing 100's of millions in damage. Now everyone's wondering why we didn't go for a higher quality option. 

the-pi-guy said:

 

Pretty much every private company spends "unnecessary" money on extraneous employee benefits, and stuff for the company that probably isn't 100% necessary.

Companies spend plenty of money on furniture, kitchenware, exercise rooms. Some of these things can help keep employees happy, while they're at their job. 

Maybe it saves them money through employee retention. 

BFR said:

Bottom line: Does the CDC even need "powered" picnic tables to begin with - just so they can charge their devices while they eat lunch?

Like I said earlier, why can't those employees charge their devices at their desks? That's where they sit for most of the day anyway.

Maybe employees want flexibility so that they can work outside during the day, and not be stuck at their desks? 

Maybe it also helps employees who want to work a little bit later in the day. 

Maybe it helps them conduct business meetings. Even private companies spend a lot of money for that kind of thing.

zorg1000 said:

This is what I find funny about the “fiscal responsibility” people, the federal government had about $6.8 trillion in outlays for fiscal year 2024 and their solution is to nickel and dime on a handful of projects that combined make up less than a percent of the budget.

Sure, you can find examples of overspending on specific things or spending on dumb things but about 65% of federal outlays come from defense, healthcare, social security & interest. Add in things like infrastructure, education, housing, environment, disaster relief, nutrition assistance, etc. and you’re now close to the entire budget with none of those categories being a popular thing to make cuts to.

You can nickel and dime all these small projects but the end result is outlays go from something like $6.8t to $6.75t, mission accomplished!

Exactly.

Rand Paul, as a senator should hopefully have a better idea of government spending than most people.

Yet his demonstration of how wasteful government is, feels like such a stretch, it doesn't feel particularly convincing. 

the-pi-guy said:
BFR said:

"Pretty much every private company spends "unnecessary" money on extraneous employee benefits"


     We are talking about the federal gov't spending our tax dollars wastefully, not about private company wasteful spending.

I already did say the money was wasteful. I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just saying we can talk about the other layers to this. 

But I'll go even further and say, being able to "waste" money is kind of an important good part of government. Being able to invest in helpful technologies that private industry wouldn't because they're not profitable is important. We wouldn't have space exploration without it. SpaceX wouldn't exist without NASA existing. 

The vast majority of space firsts were done by government programs.

Being able to invest in green technologies, is an important government responsibility right now. 

These are my 4 posts about the picnic tables.  

Never suggested they were a good purchase. Made a joke about them, but mostly just suggested that maybe it wasn't as bad of a purchase as it might look. Especially without more information. 

Having a nuanced take on things isn't hypocrisy. 

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BFR said:

I could easily list all of your names that are in cahoots in the "US Politics" thread. But, I won't out of respect.

We really aren't. 

I kind of wish we were, politics is a frustrating and lonely place. 



But, Pi, then you said this:

Looks to me that you are contradicting yourself. Just my opinion.