Is this what you meant?

OT: Nothing much to say, other than I agree with pretty much what everyone else said.

you read my mind.

 Thanks mate :D  anyways what I'm saying is as gamers today we expect more from a console - Online Chat,  music to streme during game play etc.  I'm not saying that there is a shift from games or that I want all other extras instead of games. I'm saying that we want more interactivity with the game and others. You take away voice chat, friends list and messaging from a xbox live subscriber and you'll so pissed people off.  Gaming is evolving and it now incorporates other mediums - which enhances games and the console.  

On a personal note - I don't hate mini games - I hate wii sport and crap like that.  I still play old skool games... so go figure. No need to make a personal attack because you feel offended.  Not my fault you like cheap crap over quality.  Just enjoy games like everyone else.   

@bold part.  Correct, but many people fail to accept that it evolves in many paths and directions.   The direction you mentioned is towards PC gaming.   Not a bad or wrong direction, just not the only direction.  There are millions of gamers out there that simply want games and aren't looking for the PC like experience.   The growth in the industry allows both paths to be explored without harming each other.

tuoyo hit it pretty good.  I think finalsquall, that you think the populace sees things through your eyes.  I personally don't think the majority of the populace, or even the majority of people who buy a game system, agree with you.  They don't have the same 'standards' as you.

Though, at the same time, at least you are not one of the people that is all insecure about their 'hardcore' games going away.  You know, those people that are all threatened by the Wii, casual games, and games they don't think are to their standards.  That go on all the time about how they are going to kill the industry and bring the quality of gaming down.  Ugh, thats what really annoys me.

I just disagree with you that most console buyers have your same preferences.  Or even your budget for gaming.

So just because sony is selling in 2nd place means what it did in the past is no more? then this is the FIRST time ive heard of nintendo because for the last 10 years they sold in what 3rd?

Sony HAS reached the masses just because its selling slower NOW does NOT discount what sony did and thats sell more then ALL NINTENDO CONSOLES combinded so far.

I a way the Wii could beat out the PS2.. but unlikely as I'm hoping Nintendo learned a harsh lesson from their history.

But the System after the Wii should; given Nintendo follows strong business patterns and follow innovation over supplimentation.

If not then the Wii will outsell the PS2, I'd figure in this case the Wii could sell about 160 million LTD, while the PS2 would probably taper off at 150 million LTD.

Of course that's not wishful thinking, that's just going on the idea that demand and supply will stay the before the next consoles can overlap them.

(Similar to whats happening now with the PS2)

It really all depends on the software - if Wii fit becomes huge, like amazingly huge in America, Nintendo could be looking to enter a new billion dollar industry. (People will do anything to lose weight.)

They are going about it correctly too, just show an add of a woman doing Yoga, then the wiiskiing and slap in a person smiling falling back into a white couch behind them while seeming to relax after playing. Boom, you got yourself a mega million seller. (The person would probably have to be a female teen or olderish and medium build.)

Demand for the console would gradually go up and be kept up due to lack of supply and no competition offering the same thing at the same price.

 Ok, so November 0 the wii will be at 36m (I said oct 2008 34m so not much difference anyway). Do you care to explain the path to the 150m?

BTW, since Nintendo released their earning we now have official data to work off.

Wii sold 24.45m up to Mar 2008 and Nintendo expects to sell 25m from April 2008 to Mar 2009. That will put the Wii at 50m by Mar 2009 (about 2.5 years). This is amazing but it still has 100m more to go...

If you don't like my opinions don't read my posts, I have the right to express my opinion just like everyone else. Saying the Wii will sell more than 150m is also fanboyism. Much more than my post where I just ask for details how do you guys expect this to happen.