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Idas Said:

Maybe announcing the PS5 Indy port so soon is just a legal precaution.

The most recent annual report from MS said this about risks related to acquisitions: "In addition, an acquisition may be subject to challenge even after it has been completed. For example, the Federal Trade Commission continues to challenge our Activision Blizzard acquisition and could, if successful, alter or unwind the transaction. These events could adversely affect our business, operations, financial condition, and results of operations."

One of the main arguments from the FTC was exclusivity and the Indiana Jones game going from multi platform (originally) to exclusive due to a new agreement with Disney (renegotiated by MS post Bethesda acquisition) was one of the best pieces of evidence that they got.

The FTC altering or even unwinding the ABK acquisition is unlikely but in theory is still possible.

We are in August 2024 and this is still going on (we are waiting for the decision from the 9th Circuit). So, maybe announcing that Indiana Jones is not exclusive, even before the release of the Xbox version, is just a legal precaution in case the 9th Circuit rules in favour of the FTC and then the administrative process goes ahead.

This way that piece of evidence wouldn't be valuable anymore and MS could say: "The game is multi platform again, there is a small gap of 3-4 months between versions but just for technical reasons. We don't even care about temporal exclusivity because PS5 players already know that the game is coming and when".

After all, we lawyers love to anticipate any potential risk, no matter how small it may seem. I think that the risk is minor but if it becomes a reality (altering or even unwinding ABK) would have huge consequences.

Therefore, better be safe than sorry.

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This is a reasonable explanation, not really seen any better ones yet, as to why they announced the port before even Xbox's release, I forgot the Ninth Circuit is still pending and it definitely should have been closed months ago so I'm not sure what is holding it up and Microsoft lawyers are very cautious people. Microsoft mentioning it in their annual report shows they still have some concern. Ultimately, it won't matter much, I don't think Indiana Jones would have been a system seller, but it was still a dumb move that causes unnecessary negative PR and not any benefits that I can think of. Idas explanation does at least provide a solid theory.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 21 August 2024

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Car in Starfield sounds nice, now someone make a Creation Club mod for a Warthog skin (or Bethesda can release it).



If you plan on playing Genshin don't bother with the preorder pack. All the items are useless.



Haven’t posted here in a while

I am a little sad and disappointed by the current state of Xbox and I think I am probably just going to migrate off the platform permanently and move to PC full time now.

I think internally at Microsoft a decision has already been made to pull the plug on the console, and there won’t be a 10th gen console from Xbox when that rolls around. It seems clear to me the slim refreshes have already been cancelled, and so has the controller revision. They have also completely given up on exclusivity of any kind and seem to be waiving the white flag in all markets now.

It’s over. The Series X|S will be the last console Microsoft produces, and I also think that given the console market has been stagnant or declining for 3 generations in a row now there probably won’t be a third manufacturer in the console space ever again. MS will just be a big third party publisher.

This will probably serve as a good lesson going forward: all things end. Nintendo and PlayStation will also end too, we don’t know when, but it is unavoidable and inevitable. Always enjoy what you have while you have it, you never know when it will be gone.

I had so many good memories with the original Xbox and the Xbox 360, I am thankful I got to experience those as a child.





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...to avoid getting banned for inactivity, I may have to resort to comments that are of a lower overall quality and or beneath my moral standards.

aTokenYeti said:

Haven’t posted here in a while

I am a little sad and disappointed by the current state of Xbox and I think I am probably just going to migrate off the platform permanently and move to PC full time now.

I think internally at Microsoft a decision has already been made to pull the plug on the console, and there won’t be a 10th gen console from Xbox when that rolls around. It seems clear to me the slim refreshes have already been cancelled, and so has the controller revision. They have also completely given up on exclusivity of any kind and seem to be waiving the white flag in all markets now.

It’s over. The Series X|S will be the last console Microsoft produces, and I also think that given the console market has been stagnant or declining for 3 generations in a row now there probably won’t be a third manufacturer in the console space ever again. MS will just be a big third party publisher.

This will probably serve as a good lesson going forward: all things end. Nintendo and PlayStation will also end too, we don’t know when, but it is unavoidable and inevitable. Always enjoy what you have while you have it, you never know when it will be gone.

I had so many good memories with the original Xbox and the Xbox 360, I am thankful I got to experience those as a child.

I mean, Xbox as a publisher will still be around, Lol. As it stands I think it's easily arguable that they're one of the most interesting major publishers right now with Xbox Game Studios, Zenimax and Activision-Blizzard so even if you move away from Xbox console into PC, that isn't going anywhere, you're only changing one hardware for another hardware.

That's why I'm saying I wish people would move into the acceptance phase already and make whatever decision they think is best for them instead of being in a constant state of negativity so that we can actually go back to talking about the things that matter most which is the videogames because their multiplatform approach isn't going to stop.

I'm not as negative as most, ONL was packed with Xbox content, Xbox support is still strong and improving with things like Genshin Impact finally coming, their 1st party is still incredibly exciting and a lot to look forward to, people will complain about Wukong being delayed on Xbox but ignore that they had Palworld at the start of the year, Lol. Xbox relationship with publishers continues to improve, Game Pass is still great, etc.

I do not share the sentiment that Xbox Series X/S will be the last Xbox hardware, they've been heavily hiring in the hardware department literally in the past 1-3 months, they've been heavily hinting at making a Xbox handheld, it has been heavily hinted that their next Xbox hardware is 2026. If they cancelled hardware, it would have been leaked already and they'd have been hit with layoffs in that area.

Satya continues to make Surface devices, despite their market share being even worse than Xbox's versus their competition and he's on record as saying that he regrets exiting the phone market despite the fact that Windows Phone had a pathetic market share, Lol. I think people need to reframe their minds that only a 60m+ console can be successful.

Most Game Pass subs are on Xbox, it's arguable that millions are likely locked into the Xbox ecosystem at this point and won't change no matter what due to their libraries, Game Pass, etc. That's millions of people spending $ on Game Pass, Xbox Live and 3rd Party Content (30% cut) which even at 30m consoles sold would amount to billions of $ in revenue.

They're not going to dump all of that overnight which is what stopping at Series X/S would be.

I don't buy the paranoia that even Xbox as fully multiplatform would crater to less than 10m sold, not when 3rd parties are the biggest movers of consoles nowadays, not when millions are locked into ecosystems and have years worth of content, not if they can make the consoles more enticing either via power, price, etc. The biggest push of Series S since launch has been from College Football 25, a multiplatform title.

The next big console pusher will be GTA 6, not Indiana Jones, not Avowed, etc. And if the next hardware is a PC/Xbox hybrid then support won't be an issue but you can achieve support of a platform even at 30m consoles sold or whatever, as Xbox Series is demonstrating right now by having far better support than Xbox One but if you don't buy that then yeah, move to PC and you'll be happier and we can talk games again.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 21 August 2024

Speaking of College Football 25.



"We run a business, it is definitely true inside of Microsoft that the bar is high for us in terms of the delivery we have to give back to the company."

Multiplatform approach is being pushed through as a necessity to hit MS financial/performance targets sounds like.



Next to do that will be GTA 6 since everything else is still on fucking last gen, Lol.

Black Ops 6 should have been next gen only, that would have provided a big boost to both Xbox and PS too.

College Football 25 is a fucking juggernaut showing that these multiplatform titles don't need last gen.