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chakkra said:

So.. what you´re telling me is that by nex week Microsoft will have released 5 games on Playstation this year and only ONE game on Xbox?

Games which were already on Xbox for years, Lol. I can understand some arguments but not this one.

Shaunodon said:
chakkra said:

So.. what you´re telling me is that by nex week Microsoft will have released 5 games on Playstation this year and only ONE game on Xbox?

They've also delayed multiple games. Because, you know, they didn't want to release too many games on Xbox this year. Any many announcements/re-announcements with very vague release windows.

It'd be rather ironic that I got Series X last year in time for Starfield, hoping that maybe in a year some of the Final Fantasy exclusive deals would be ending so I could play them now. Turns out the opposite was more likely all along...

They delayed one game for that reason given (scheduling) and it's a perfectly acceptable reason when you look at the time it was rumoured to be releasing and the competition around it, it's also perfectly believable because Microsoft have never given this reason before, they've never been shy about saying they needed to delay a game for polishing reasons, they did with Halo Infinite, Psychonauts 2, Starfield, etc.

Not sure what has a vague release window other than Indiana Jones which will likely receive a release date at Gamescom, I don't see people complaining that it took until today for Dragon Age to get a release date which is by all accounts rumoured to release sooner than Indiana Jones. They do not need to date their 2025 titles this early, yet they did so with Avowed, an exact date at that. Unless the game is locked and ready to go, giving an exact 2025 date this far out is silly.

Edit - Oh, there's Towerborne too.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 15 August 2024

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I wish we would move into the acceptance phase already, Lol.

Every single title will eventually hit PlayStation, Microsoft's future is timed exclusivity, Game Pass and bespoke hardware, I believe the next hardware will be a midrange handheld and a high-end console which is sold at a profit. Do with that information what you will, make a decision whether you want to remain with Xbox or move to PC/PS but can we not have the same damn complaining for every single port? 😭😂

Personally, until someone can explain to me how Microsoft replaces tens of millions of consoles sold, with millions of people buying games, paying for Game Pass, Xbox Live and the 30% cut on 3rd party software which amounts to billions in revenue, I do not see a near future where Xbox stops making hardware and that's even if their next console only sells 30m-40m. There are millions of people who do not buy consoles for exclusives, they buy whatever is convenient, cross-play has eliminated the need to buy a console to play with friends, a multiplatform sports game just provided Series S with its biggest boost since near launch and millions will continue to buy simply because they're already locked into the ecosystem and people can complain about games skipping Xbox but facts are Xbox support is still far better than Xbox One era.

Anywho, I'll probably dip out from the thread again and return for Gamescom.



Ryuu96 said:

I wish we would move into the acceptance phase already, Lol.

Every single title will eventually hit PlayStation, Microsoft's future is timed exclusivity, Game Pass and bespoke hardware, I believe the next hardware will be a midrange handheld and a high-end console which is sold at a profit. Do with that information what you will, make a decision whether you want to remain with Xbox or move to PC/PS but can we not have the same damn complaining for every single port? 😭😂

Personally, until someone can explain to me how Microsoft replaces tens of millions of consoles sold, with millions of people buying games, paying for Game Pass, Xbox Live and the 30% cut on 3rd party software which amounts to billions in revenue, I do not see a near future where Xbox stops making hardware and that's even if their next console only sells 30m-40m. There are millions of people who do not buy consoles for exclusives, they buy whatever is convenient, cross-play has eliminated the need to buy a console to play with friends, a multiplatform sports game just provided Series S with its biggest boost since near launch and millions will continue to buy simply because they're already locked into the ecosystem and people can complain about games skipping Xbox but facts are Xbox support is still far better than Xbox One era.

Without exclusive software and sold at a profit, meaning a lot more expensive, they will not sell anywhere close to 30-40m consoles. They subsidised Xbox by $100-$200 per unit. Microsoft Loses Up To $200 On Every Xbox Console It Sells (kotaku.com)

It'll take Xbox Series almost 4 years to get to 30m, now imagine where it'd be if it cost $100-$200 more and it's games were being ported to other consoles from the start.

The Steam Deck is adored and has only had positive buzz about it online, but it's sold what... 5m? Without subsidizing or exclusive software getting console hardware to sell that much just isn't going to happen.

Last edited by Zippy6 - on 15 August 2024

I game on the 3 console platforms so I'm never excluded from games that I want to play. My largest gripe is the move to digital purchases only for many games. My second largest gripe is all this subscription stuff (not just in gaming). I can see myself limiting future console purchases based on this new direction. If I want digital purchases I would just set up a steam account and get some hardware and eliminate consoles all together.

As far as Xbox strategies are concerned, I am clueless and find myself dumbfounded a majority of the time.



...to avoid getting banned for inactivity, I may have to resort to comments that are of a lower overall quality and or beneath my moral standards.



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I hope it is Redfall!



Zippy6 said:
Ryuu96 said:

I wish we would move into the acceptance phase already, Lol.

Every single title will eventually hit PlayStation, Microsoft's future is timed exclusivity, Game Pass and bespoke hardware, I believe the next hardware will be a midrange handheld and a high-end console which is sold at a profit. Do with that information what you will, make a decision whether you want to remain with Xbox or move to PC/PS but can we not have the same damn complaining for every single port? 😭😂

Personally, until someone can explain to me how Microsoft replaces tens of millions of consoles sold, with millions of people buying games, paying for Game Pass, Xbox Live and the 30% cut on 3rd party software which amounts to billions in revenue, I do not see a near future where Xbox stops making hardware and that's even if their next console only sells 30m-40m. There are millions of people who do not buy consoles for exclusives, they buy whatever is convenient, cross-play has eliminated the need to buy a console to play with friends, a multiplatform sports game just provided Series S with its biggest boost since near launch and millions will continue to buy simply because they're already locked into the ecosystem and people can complain about games skipping Xbox but facts are Xbox support is still far better than Xbox One era.

Without exclusive software and sold at a profit, meaning a lot more expensive, they will not sell anywhere close to 30-40m consoles. They subsidised Xbox by $100-$200 per unit. Microsoft Loses Up To $200 On Every Xbox Console It Sells (kotaku.com)

It'll take Xbox Series almost 4 years to get to 30m, now imagine where it'd be if it cost $100-$200 more and it's games were being ported to other consoles from the start.

The Steam Deck is adored and has only had positive buzz about it online, but it's sold what... 5m? Without subsidizing or exclusive software getting console hardware to sell that much just isn't going to happen.

Jez seems to think the reason MS won't rip the band aid off is because they still plan to have exclusives. It's still a terrible business plan because in business, communication is always key, and that's something Xbox has sorely lacked.