ZyroXZ2 said:
No no, in FFVII, there's literally a CG scene on the airship where Tifa falls back and you see her panties. So it's not a technical limitation of old moreso than it is a modern avoidance of dealing with SJW attacks, etc. on sexualization. |
You don't see anything in that scene.
Maybe on an old blurry CRT in 100i resolution it appeared that way, but it was just shadows.
But even if they had shown her underwear here for a split second, a pre-rendered cutscene is still fully in the developers control. They decide the situation, perspective, distance, duration, etc.
That's very different from being able to stick a camera right up someone's crotch while they climb a ladder.
Since you could not do that 20+ years ago, they could dress characters in certain ways without having to worry about that. And that is something that has to be taken into consider when it comes to reimagining those characters on modern hardware.
And for the record, Square Enix have allowed you to do that with some of their characters in recent games, like Nier: Automata.
And that sold extremely well, so I don't think they're concerned about backlash there, at all.
| ZyroXZ2 said: And same thing with Ashley: there are literal crawling (or I think falling?) scenes where you straight up just see her panties. They could have easily shifted the camera or done other things to avoid it. I think they just felt more free with a little "sex sells" in the old days even though that's actually still true, now. The difference now is that everyone has a "voice" and a "platform", so even though there's no such thing as bad marketing, there is such a thing as creating growing population of dissidents against the "game industry" for sexualizing women. |
I played through RE4 again recently, and thinking of this conversation I tried moving the camera while Ashley was crawling to see if it worked, and I couldn't get it to. Perhaps through a camera glitch, but I don't think it's intended during this section. While Ashley is jumping down a ledge to be caught by Leon, it is seen briefly, just like when you aim up at her and she covers up calling you a pervert.
That's why I said maybe we will see this again in RE 4 Remake. But since we are using almost photo realistic characters at this point, who are also modeled by real people, unlike the cartoony PS2-era polygons, I'm not confident about that. But I think it would be fun to have Leon be called pervert again in 2023.
China I know are really strict about things like that, but most of the world are not at that level.
Last edited by Hiku - on 10 December 2022
