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crissindahouse said:
Ryuu96 said:

🇺🇸 The U.S. has trained a limited number of Ukrainian pilots on F-16s due to a shortage of available pilots in Ukraine, says White House National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan. He stated this has delayed Ukraine's ability to fully operationalize the F-16 program.

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 8 December 2024 at 10:27

Give them more Bradleys instead if Abrams sucks (although you only sent 31). I don't like Sullivan though, everything he says feels like an excuse, I don't buy that they can't find more pilots or put more pilots through flight school, even if it would take 2 years it's better to start as soon as possible, which is exactly what France is doing.

Also, Ukraine can lower the conscription age but with what equipment? I think Zelenskyy told us that only like 4 out of the promised 14 brigades have been fully equipped due to insufficient supply from allies, so you'll just be sending all these young people to trench warfare instead with just a gun and Ukraine loses the backbone of its society.

Yeah this "there are just not enough who can operate a jet, air defense system or weapon xy" is such a stupid argument. It takes like 1.5 - 2 years for someone who never flew to be a pilot in the air force. But they act as if only those who are already pilots can be trained. 

Exactly, I think France is training brand new pilots, while America is acting like they can only train already made pilots.

It's fucking weird, and I feel like this whole conscription stuff is also another way to shift the blame on Ukraine for losing territory, not denying that conscription isn't important but I understand why Zelenskyy has been holding off as long as possible, especially when not even half of the promised brigades are fully equipped yet, conscription only goes so far without the equipment to match.



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Not sure why Israel is suddenly bombing the South of Syria, it looks like they've just bombed the shit out of multiple airfields, I think they used to be held by Assad forces so fine but the areas have been taken over now so it's a bit pointless unless they're doing it because they don't want the rebels to have them either which is a bit annoying, at least give them a chance to prove they're genuine about moderating themselves.

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‎SDF Commander: We are living "historic" moments with the fall of the authoritarian regime‎.

Leader of HTS: "We advise you to be kind to people, and whoever leaves his weapon, give him security, and whoever flees, do not catch him," 

So the current situation is basically.

  • Green = Rebel Forces (HTS, FSA, SOR)
  • Blue = Israeli Occupation of Golan Heights
  • Grey Blobs = ISIS
  • Yellow = Kurdish Factions (YPG, YPJ, SDF, PKK)
  • Red = Assad's Forces
  • Outlined Green/Darker Green in North = SNA, Türkiye.

Those blue airstrike icons are all Israel. Türkiye and SNA are attacking SDF positions.



Israel is currently launching a large aerial attack in #Syria after the downfall of Assad. Heavy military equipment & ammo depots are bombed. Israeli air strikes on Inkhil Airport, Tal al-Tha'alib, Khalkhala (the largest military base for the Syrian army), Daraa and Sweida.

Russian Foreign Ministry: Assad, after negotiations with a number of participants in the Syrian conflict, left the presidency and Syria, ordered a peaceful transfer of power, Russia did not participate in the negotiations

Hahahahahahahahaha.

Moscow is in contact with all groups of the Syrian opposition against the backdrop of the aggravation in this country, the Russian Foreign Ministry said

Russia is trying to slime its way to keep those military bases and continuing their terrorist actions in Africa, I hope HTS and others tell them to fuck off, I swear if America and Europe doesn't take the opportunity to at least try to work with these factions and boot Russia out of Syria because they think no change can ever come from Syria...I could see a scenario where America/Europe still refuses to work with them and so they go to Russia because they don't have any other choice even with the years of bad blood between them.

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So Assad has left the country and fled, a "peaceful" transfer of power when he was about to be killed, Lol

Coward. Hopefully one day Syria can get justice still, in whatever form that comes in.



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Map of Syrian Civil War

Liveuamap just removed all red from the map.







BEIRUT (AP) — Abu Mohammed al-Golani, the militant leader whose stunning insurgency toppled Syria’s President Bashar Assad, has spent years working to remake his public image, renouncing longtime ties to al-Qaida and depicting himself as a champion of pluralism and tolerance. In recent days, the insurgency even dropped his nom de guerre and began referring to him by his real name, Ahmad al-Sharaa.

The extent of that transformation from jihadi extremist to would-be state builder is now put to the test. Insurgents control capital Damascus, Assad has fled into hiding, and for the first time after 50 years of his family’s iron hand, it is an open question how Syria will be governed.

Syria is home to multiple ethnic and religious communities, often pitted against each other by Assad’s state and years of war. Many of them fear the possibility Sunni Islamist extremists will take over. The country is also fragmented among disparate armed factions, and foreign powers from Russia and Iran to the United States, Turkey and Israel all have their hands in the mix.

The 42-year-old al-Golani -- labeled a terrorist by the United States -- has not appeared publicly since Damascus fell early Sunday. But he and his insurgent force, Hayat Tahrir al-Sham, or HTS – many of whose fighters are jihadis -- stand to be a major player. For years, al-Golani worked to consolidate power, while bottled up in the province of Idlib in Syria’s northwest corner as Assad’s Iranian- and Russian-backed rule over much of the country appeared solid.

He maneuvered among extremist organizations while eliminating competitors and former allies. He sought to polish the image of his de-facto “salvation government” that has been running Idlib to win over international governments and reassure Syria’s religious and ethnic minorities. And he built ties with various tribes and other groups.

Along the way, al-Golani shed his garb as a hard-line Islamist guerrilla and put on suits for press interviews, talking of building state institutions and decentralizing power to reflect Syria’s diversity. “Syria deserves a governing system that is institutional, no one where a single ruler makes arbitrary decisions,” he said in an interview with CNN last week, offering the possibility HTS would eventually be dissolved after Assad falls.

“Don’t judge by words, but by actions,” he said.

With his power consolidated, al-Golani set in motion a transformation that few could have imagined. Replacing his military garb with shirt and trousers, he began calling for religious tolerance and pluralism. He appealed to the Druze community in Idlib, which the Nusra Front had previously targeted, and visited the families of Kurds who were killed by Turkish-backed militias.

In 2021, al-Golani had his first interview with an American journalist on PBS. Wearing a blazer, with his short hair gelled back, the now more soft-spoken HTS leader said that his group posed no threat to the West and that sanctions imposed against it were unjust. “Yes, we have criticized Western policies,” he said. “But to wage a war against the United States or Europe from Syria, that’s not true. We didn’t say we wanted to fight.”

Who is Abu Mohammed al-Golani, The Leader of the Syrian Insurgency? | AP News

You don't have to trust him, I certainly have strong doubts but this may be the best chance Syria has at some sort of stability, I say we at least try to see if his actions match his words and if not, at least we tried, if they do then that'd be a good thing, I think a little hope is better than just assuming it will always be shit and there's nothing that can be done to improve things and we should get in there before bad actors like Russia and Türkiye continue to manipulate the situation for the worse as they've done for years already.

Lets say he is being genuine and Syria would change for the better but America and Europe continues to be like "nah fuck off" then it'll just drive them once again into the arms of tyrants like Putin when they feel they have no other choice but to work with whoever they can get. Of course he could turn out to be a tyrant himself once he consolidates power and then we can cut ties but I fear if we don't try and we're wrong about this it could backfire on us once again and lead Syria down yet another dark path because we didn't give them a chance.

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King Abdullah II: Jordan stands by the Syrian brothers and respects their will and choices.

‎Iranian Foreign Ministry: We respect Syria's unity and national sovereignty‎.

The fucking nerve of Iran, Lol.