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Lmao, I found this...

Red Lines In The Russo-Ukrainian War - Wikipedia

It has its own fucking Wiki page!

Date notifiedRed lineDate brokenConsequences
2014CrimeaAugust 23, 2023
September 2021No deployment of soldiers to UkraineApril 12, 2023
December 2021No weapons to UkraineFebruary 2022Threats over non disguised intervention by NATO
February 24, 2022“Interference” in Ukraine by outside powersFebruary 24, 2022Reduction in gas supply to the west
February 2022NATO troops and missiles to be withdrawn from Russia's western borderFebruary 2022
February 2022NATO to stop eastward expansion and reverses back to position in 1997February 2022
March 2022No introducing a “no-fly” zonenot broken
March 2022No more western arms to UkraineMarch 2022Convoys will be considered legitimate targets
March 2022No MiG-29 fighter jetsMarch 2022Supplied MiGs will be destroyed
April 2022No foreign intervention in warnot broken
June 2022No long-range missilesJune 2022New targets hit by Russian missiles
June 2022No Western made missiles to be fired into RussiaDec 2023
August 2022No supplying old Soviet tanks to UkraineAugust 2022
September 2022Germany's supply of lethal weapons to Ukraine crosses a red lineSeptember 2022
September 2022Russian setbacks on battlefield will result in nuclear holocaustSeptember 2022
September 2022Not to threaten the territorial integrity of Russia
(as its borders were prior to 2014)
August 6, 2024There have been many attacks and incursions on Russian soil since the war began, some claimed by Kyiv and some carried out by Belarusian and Russian partisans. The first major ground offensive by the regular Ukrainian Armed Forces began on 6 August 2024, in the Kursk Oblast, where Ukraine gained and held Russian territory for the first time.
September 2022Not to supply longer range battlefield missiles (greater than HIMARS's current 80 kilometres (50 mi))May 2023Red line pulled back
November 2022Not to supply Patriot Missile systemApril 2023
January 2023No modern western tanks to be supplied to UkraineJanuary 2023Comments about it being an "extremely dangerous" action
May 2023No F-16 fighter jetsJuly 2024Comments about it being a "colossal risk"
June 2023No HIMARS or Storm Shadow missiles to attack Russian territory

(as its borders were prior to 2014)

June 2024
September 2023No US ATACMS long-range missiles to attack Russian territoryOctober 2023Putin said in October, US deliveries of the long-range Army Tactical Missile System (ATACMS) to Ukraine was "another mistake"


I fucking laughed out loud at.

"Russian setbacks on battlefield will result in nuclear holocaust"

Date Broken: September 2022.



Why China and Russia have fallen out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOb6K8e080Y&t=2s



shavenferret said:

Why China and Russia have fallen out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOb6K8e080Y&t=2s

China and Russia are two big boi countries who both think they're #1 and that's all well and good when they both hate the West but China knows without the West it would collapse overnight (likewise, the West would collapse too) but China is more financially aware than Russia and with Russia in the state it is in, China will happily take advantage of that. Doesn't mean they're enemies but China is going to absolutely take advantage of Russia for all its worth.

Basically, China is smarter than Russia, Lol.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 25 August 2024

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Ryuu96 said:
shavenferret said:

Why China and Russia have fallen out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOb6K8e080Y&t=2s

China and Russia are two big boi countries who both think they're #1 and that's all well and good when they both hate the West but China knows without the West it would collapse overnight (likewise, the West would collapse too) but China is more financially aware than Russia and with Russia in the state it is in, China will happily take advantage of that. Doesn't mean they're enemies but China is going to absolutely take advantage of Russia for all its worth.

Basically, China is smarter than Russia, Lol.

Don't let that CCP stuff fool you, they are the most capitilistic people and the best businessmen on the planet



Russian authorities have seized more than $100m (£76m) from Google to fund propaganda supporting Vladimir Putin’s war in Ukraine, court documents show.

US filings have revealed that bailiffs took the funds from the tech giant’s Russian bank accounts in 2022, tipping its unit in the country into bankruptcy. 

Putin seizes $100m from Google to fund Russia's war machine

Lol Google.

Okay, so now that Russia has done this, can we stop with the half measure of only taking interest profit on frozen assets and instead go all the way and seize the funds entirely and use them to fund our support of Ukraine.



So it's like a drone cruise missile I don't really understand, haha. Can they control it in flight like a drone or is it just the method of delivering it? Is the benefit that it doesn't need a jet to fire it?

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 25 August 2024