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America and Germany, Bet.

Happy to see UK is in favour.

"Everyone else pushing for a European" Lol...It has to be, I'm sorry Biden but it can't be an American with fucking Trump coming in.

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Nico Lange, Senior Fellow at Center for European Policy Analysis (CEPA), told the Kyiv Independent that Ukraine's non-membership of NATO is "exactly the gray zone Vladimir Putin tries to exploit."

"I'm afraid this will be perceived very positively in Moscow, it will be perceived as a success from the Kremlin point of view," he added.

But in Kyiv, with expectations lowered since last year, it's still being viewed on positive, if somewhat resigned, terms.

"Nevertheless, we would like to see in the final document of the summit, an indication that the process of joining NATO is irreversible, that it's only a question of time that Ukraine is going to join NATO," Merezhko said. "That we're not discussing anymore whether or not Ukraine becomes a fully-fledged NATO member, but that we're only discussing when it will happen."

A statement on F-16 fighter jets will announce they will be on the battlefield "this summer," according to people familiar with the matter.

Ukraine has long-been preparing to receive dozens of the aircraft, with a recent uptick of Russian attacks on airfields likely an attempt to disrupt their arrival and deployment.

Although defense experts do not expect F-16s to become game-changers in the war, the jets may strengthen Ukraine's air defense capabilities, helping to prevent attacks like the devastating mass missile attack on July 8.

They will also challenge Russia's "full dominance" of the skies over the Black Sea, Navy Commander Oleksii Neizhpapa told Reuters in an interview published on July 5.



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Ryuu96 said:

great news.  Would you know how many Patriot systems they would have?  It's gotta be more than the dozen that they had b4 the mass influx of aid this year, perhaps 20 systems?



shavenferret said:
Ryuu96 said:

great news.  Would you know how many Patriot systems they would have?  It's gotta be more than the dozen that they had b4 the mass influx of aid this year, perhaps 20 systems?

I think you're confusing launchers with batteries, Ukraine has 3 Patriot Batteries from Germany, 2 from America (not sure if the 2nd has arrived yet). Batteries are the whole component, which is a radar, control station, power generator and launchers, typically 6-8 launchers per battery. Ukraine has ~5 batteries, will probably have ~10 if these 3 additional Patriots are entire batteries.

Last edited by Ryuu96 - on 10 July 2024

Lol Musk.

Lol Musk.



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What needs to happen to every single Russian politician, every single one of them, every single soldier ranked above a cannon fodder foot soldier.



If there was any justice we would have kicked Russia out of the UN Security Council and dragged this twat to the gallows too.



The same Grain Agreement which failed because Russia didn't uphold their end of the agreement, only for Ukraine to achieve better supply of grain than during the entire course of the war through *checks notes* receiving weaponry to beat Russia back...So you basically give an example of "peace" which failed and ultimately received better results through delivering Ukraine the right weapons to beat Russia.

Genius Orban.