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I fear today is going to be an absolute shitshow again with Couch Fucker and Child Fucker attacking Zelenskyy.

Trump is already blaming Zelenskyy before the meeting even starts and has officially given up on Crimea.

They're focused on the important issues, like if Zelenskyy will be wearing a suit today.

Trump-Zelensky Summit: White House Asks If He'll Wear a Suit

Here is what Trump is doing for America.

🥴🤡Russians with an American flag storm the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Zaporizhia direction

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— 🪖MilitaryNewsUA🇺🇦 (@militarynewsua.bsky.social) 18 August 2025 at 09:12



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A string of Ukrainian politicians and public figures have condemned the idea of handing over unoccupied land to Russia for peace on Sunday, arguing that their country had not been defeated and should not be forced into a surrender.

Halyna Yanchenko, an independent member of Ukraine’s parliament, said the suggestion that Ukraine should “simply surrender new territories without a fight – just because Putin wants it – is absurd from the very start”. The MP, an anti-corruption activist previously part of Zelenskyy’s Servant of the People party, said hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians would be affected by Putin’s proposal, initially favoured by Trump after Friday’s Alaska summit.

Official estimates are that 255,000 people still live in the 3,500 sq miles (9,000 sq km) of Donetsk province that Russia has been unable to seize in its three-and-a-half-year invasion, which includes the industrial cities of Kramatorsk and Sloviansk. The Donbas also comprises Luhansk province, which is almost totally occupied by Russia.

Prior to Russia’s full-scale invasion the population of Donetsk was 1.9 million, so the number of people with property and other connections to the area wanted by Russia is higher. “So when someone brings up the idea of ‘trading territory’, we must understand that in practice it is trading people,” Yanchenko said.

Serhii Kupavykh, who was born and raised in Kramatorsk but now lives in Kharkiv, said he believed that allowing Russia to take his city and the rest of Donetsk would amount to “a defeat in the war, which will lead to a split in society”, though he recognised that gradual Russian advances had made the defence of them difficult.

He said Zelenskyy had “no right to resolve such issues unilaterally” and he believed that “renouncing the territory is political suicide for the entire government” – though he acknowledged that Ukraine was in a complex position.

Cartoons and memes circulated widely online over the weekend with a particular focus on the sight of US soldiers kneeling to straighten out the red carpet in Alaska for the Russian president. “Dishonored,” wrote Serhii Sternenko, a Ukrainian drone fundraiser, on X, comparing the image to soldiers raising the US flag at Iwo Jima towards the end of the second world war.

Maksym Palenko, a cartoonist, drew a picture of a glum-looking Trump with his trademark red tie spooling out beneath him and turning into a carpet on which a laughing Putin was standing. It reflected shots of Putin smiling as he was sitting in Trump’s limousine while it was setting off.

“We do not deserve to surrender and we are not in a position to surrender,” said Oleksiy Goncharenko, an MP with the opposition European Solidarity party. “This part of Donetsk is a fortress and Putin has tried and failed to take it for 11 years. Now he wants to take it through diplomatic tricks and manoeuvres.”

Goncharenko said Putin’s offer to freeze the conflict in the western Kherson and central Zaporizhzhia provinces if Ukraine hands over Donetsk was designed to provoke splits in Ukraine and abroad and the situation needed to be handled with care. Zelenskyy’s response needed to be “well framed, to persuade Trump that Putin has set a trap, because we have seen in the past that the relationship between Trump and Zelenskyy can be quite explosive,” Goncharenko said.

Sevgil Musaieva, the editor of Ukrainian Pravda, said in a column published on Sunday: “We are being forced to behave as if we have to admit defeat. Not military, but political. Not a surrender of arms, but a surrender of thought.” She said this was “the most dangerous form of defeat. Because if we accept it internally then external defeat will only be a matter of time.” In fact, “for the first time in a century, Ukrainians put up a worthy resistance”, she said.

“We have no right to forget Bucha, Izium, Mariupol. We have no right to forget the torture, the mass graves, the children killed and abducted by Russia,” she said, arguing that “without memory we will lose ourselves”

Oleksii Kovzhun, a popular Kyiv-based video blogger, said Putin’s demands were “akin to capitulation” and that “Zelenskyy could not legally hand over Donetsk even if he would want to (and he does not)” because it would have to be subject to a referendum. “Ukrainians will not allow it,” he said.

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Ukraine Hits Russian Convoy in Kursk, Putin’s Decorated General Seriously Wounded
Ukraine struck a Russian column in Kursk, seriously wounding Lt. Gen. Abachev, and blew up an ammo depot in occupied Melitopol, killing marines and Kadyrov’s “Akhmat-Vostok” Chechen fighters.

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/58367

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He lost an arm and a leg from this attack

Ukraine's 'Flamingo' Missile Enters Production, Extending Strike Range to 3,000+ km
Ukraine's new "Flamingo" missile, capable of striking targets over 3,000 km away, has entered production, dramatically enhancing its military reach amid rising regional tensions. This development could reshape the balance of power.

https://demstate.com/article/ukraines-flamingo-missile-enters-production-extending-strike-range-to-3000-km

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These are larger missles than the previous Neptune ones that Ukraine has been working on. This can take out a building without a problem. I'd love to see about 50 launched at the Kremlin very soon.



Hillary Clinton says she'd nominate Trump for Nobel Peace Prize if he ends Ukraine war without giving territory to Russia

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/hillary-clinton-would-nominate-trump-nobel-peace-prize-if-he-ends-ukraine-war/



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shavenferret said:

Hillary Clinton says she'd nominate Trump for Nobel Peace Prize if he ends Ukraine war without giving territory to Russia

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/hillary-clinton-would-nominate-trump-nobel-peace-prize-if-he-ends-ukraine-war/

Lol. She is being funny because she knows he never would, but even I would happily nominate Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize if he managed to kick Russia out of Ukraine and end the war. But we all know that isn't happening. Trump wants the easiest option, which is forcing Ukraine to surrender.

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The moment of the morning strike on a residential building in Kharkiv. The attack was deliberate. The death toll has risen to 7.

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 18 August 2025 at 11:59

Trump’s team is apparently obsessed with ties and suits. Axios reports his advisers want Zelensky to show up in a suit today, claiming it would be a “sign of peace.” The White House even asked Ukrainian officials in advance what he would wear. As if clothes decide wars.

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 18 August 2025 at 13:03



America: "Zelenskyy must wear a suit to show he wants peace!"

Same Day: *Russia bombs multiple residential buildings.*



Ryuu96 said:
shavenferret said:

Hillary Clinton says she'd nominate Trump for Nobel Peace Prize if he ends Ukraine war without giving territory to Russia

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/hillary-clinton-would-nominate-trump-nobel-peace-prize-if-he-ends-ukraine-war/

Lol. She is being funny because she knows he never would, but even I would happily nominate Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize if he managed to kick Russia out of Ukraine and end the war. But we all know that isn't happening. Trump wants the easiest option, which is forcing Ukraine to surrender.

I'm very glad that she is doing this, she could just sit in her home unaffected b/c retired, but is going out of her way to make statements like this.  Good for her.  



🇺🇸❗️Trump was ready to leave negotiations with Putin because of his maximalist demands, — Axios

📍Putin insisted on maximalist territorial demands for five regions of Ukraine, including the Donetsk region.
📍Putin wanted to get all this and was so firm in his demands that Trump was ready to leave.

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— MAKS 25 👀🇺🇦 (@maks23.bsky.social) 18 August 2025 at 13:07

  • Putin: "I want it all!"
  • Trump: "This meeting is over!"
  • Putin: "Alright, I'll only have Donetsk and pinkie promise not to take the rest at a later date"
  • Trump: "Deal!"

He is so fucking stupid, Putin showed his true hand in the meeting, by saying he wants it all, and Trump's solution was to give him Donetsk via non-military means and a pinkie promise not to take the rest at a later date, which is for Putin an even better deal than trying to take it all now because he would be gaining Donetsk without lifting a finger militarily! No troops needed to die, no vehicles lost, he would skip over the fortified lines and take the whole of Donetsk without lifting a finger because of America and then break his pinkie promise as he has done before to take the rest.

Or this is some bullshit leak to pathetically try and fail to make Trump look tough.

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