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Ryuu96 4 hours ago

Another Russian narrative softly pushed. Masks are off.

Pentagon chief Hegset: "Borders won’t return to 2014 levels—this isn’t a concession to Putin, but an acceptance of reality." Ukraine’s future aid could be part of talks; Both Putin & Zelensky won’t get everything they want.

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 13 February 2025 at 18:47

Trump on whether Zelensky should cede territory to end the war: "He’ll have to do what he has to do, but his ratings, to put it mildly, are not very high. At some point you got to have elections too."

Trump is gently pushing the Kremlin narrative: that Zelensky is illegitimate.

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 13 February 2025 at 08:45

🇺🇦🇺🇸 Tomorrow, U.S. VP Vance and Secretary of State Rubio will meet with Zelensky to discuss increasing pressure from President Trump on Ukraine and Russia to start negotiations, according to Euronews.

ru.euronews.com/my-europe/20...

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 13 February 2025 at 18:52

The same JD Vance who said that he "doesn’t really care what happens to Ukraine, one way or the other." is heading off to speak about Ukraine's future. It's a sick joke to that have couch fucker there, I would forgive Zelenskyy if he broke his nose. Also Trump is straight up spreading Russian propaganda now, what the fuck does he know about Zelenskyy's ratings? Also very hypocritical coming from Trump.

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Ryuu96 3 hours ago

❗️🇩🇪 German Chancellor Olaf Scholz urged the Bundestag to declare a state of emergency following the last 24 hours' events and U.S. statements regarding Ukraine. The emergency status would allow the government to take on more debt than the current limit permits.

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 13 February 2025 at 19:39

Do it but I think it should be a coordinated effort, it should be an EU State of Emergency.



shavenferret 3 hours ago
Ryuu96 said:

❗️🇩🇪 German Chancellor Olaf Scholz urged the Bundestag to declare a state of emergency following the last 24 hours' events and U.S. statements regarding Ukraine. The emergency status would allow the government to take on more debt than the current limit permits.

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— NOELREPORTS (@noelreports.com) 13 February 2025 at 19:39

Do it but I think it should be a coordinated effort, it should be an EU State of Emergency.

Ok, but i know that NATO has a few countries like hungary and sometimes turkey that have supported russia's side of things in the past.  Is the EU more agreeable to supporting Ukraine?  Does it also have a one-vote thing to cancel future actions?



SvennoJ 2 hours ago
crissindahouse said:

In Germany we get to learn in school about what Germany has done wrong in the past like every single school year so that this shit never happens again. There's sadly enough idiots who still don't get it but at least those who do learn something.

How are Russians ever supposed to learn that what they did was wrong and not good with a deal Trump probably thinks about? How shall future Russian generations not strive to take territories as well when they will always believe that what they did was the correct move? They will teach in school about the win against Ukraine and the West, how Russia was fighting against "the enemy" and how the enemy had to give up because of Russia's strength.

How is this supposed to be a better tactic as to wipe Russia's military ass to give them the feeling how strong the West can be. But the "let's wipe Russia's ass" is something the West as a whole has missed sadly. 

Yet Germany still supports Israel's genocide, with weapons and legal defense at the ICJ.

The shit is happening again and apparently Germany learned the wrong lessons, supporting the new wannebe Hitler Netanyahu while cracking down on anti war / genocide protests and freedom of speech.

https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/11/11/germanys-muddle-antisemitism

Schools need to teach children how to think for themselves, next to teaching about human rights, international humanitarian law, Rome statute, Genocide convention and use that in context with world history.

Moving the 'problem' to another part of the world wasn't a solution, WW2 never ended in the ME. Is that also being taught in German schools? The German alliance with the Ottoman empire in WW1 that led to the UK promising people in Palestine area to rise up against the Germans, but then got betrayed by the Balfour declaration and Sykes-Picot agreement after WW1 ended.

The trauma from WW2 and centuries of antisemitism in Europe was never really addressed, instead used as the main driver / excuse for committing genocide and ethnic cleansing ever since.

No wonder Putin feels emboldened to take what he wants. With veto power and seeing how ineffective the world is in stopping a little country in the ME from openly committing war crimes for many decades, why would he stop. Israel's legacy is teaching other dictator's the power of modern propaganda.