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ToastyJaguar said:
I think calling the Xbox 360 games "Brilliant Atmospheric" is a bit generic lol
I would change that because it just screams of bias.

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ItalianBoyPhil said:

Xbox 360

+ The alot of Exclusive Games

+ easy to pirate

+ The style of controllers

+ The Achievement System

+ 2nd in the Xbox Family

+ Xbox Live

+ Upcoming titles

- Xbox Live Costs, not much but still. paying for an ad supported service

- The Xbox Original wasn't a very big title , 

- HD-Dvd

- Microsoft paying 50m to Rockstar for DLC , Microsoft paying for multiple JRPG's not to mention other titles.

- Hardware problems RROD

- Expensive , Non compatible Hard Drive.

-Arcade means hard drives aren't standard

- Completley useless HD-DVD add on.

- Wi-Fi not standard , expensive

- Microsoft probably will release their next console earlier than everyone else

- When buying a pro/elite it'll cost you more than a PS3 with Wi-Fi , Xbox live .(based on UK prices) 

 

 

PS3

+ Linux functionaility

+ PSP conectivity

+ Blu-Ray

+ Wi-Fi is standard

+ Strong '08 Line up, '09 Line Up

+ Returing Titles

- Althought confusing SIXAXIS

+ 3rd in the PlayStation Family

+ Light controls

+ FREE PSN

+ FREE Home

- Still needs alot of improvement on some of the games huh ?

- We should be seeing more exclusives by now '08 line up sais HI :)

- Should have a price drop

 

 

What the worst thing for both of the consoles?

--- The Console War

 


 




Million said:
ItalianBoyPhil said:

Xbox 360

+ The alot of Exclusive Games

+ easy to pirate

+ The style of controllers

+ The Achievement System

+ 2nd in the Xbox Family

+ Xbox Live

+ Upcoming titles

- Xbox Live Costs, not much but still.

- The Xbox Original wasn't a very big title , paying for an ad supported service

- HD-Dvd

- Microsoft paying 50m to Rockstar for DLC , Microsoft paying for multiple JRPG's not to mention other titles.

- Hardware problems RROD

- Expensive , Non compatible Hard Drive.

-Arcade means hard drives aren't standard

- Completley useless HD-DVD add on.

- Wi-Fi not standard , expensive

- Microsoft probably will release their next console earlier than everyone else

 

 

PS3

+ Linux functionaility

+ PSP conectivity

+ Blu-Ray

+ Wi-Fi is standard

+ Strong '08 Line up, '09 Line Up

+ Returing Titles

- Althought confusing SIXAXIS

+ 3rd in the PlayStation Family

+ Light controls

+ FREE PSN

+ FREE Home

- Still needs alot of improvement on some of the games huh ?

- We should be seeing more exclusives by now '08 line up sais HI :)

- Should have a price drop

 

 

What the worst thing for both of the consoles?

--- The Console War

 


 


I don't get how Microsoft funding exclusives or DLC is a bad thing in anyway?  I also think the best thing about both consoles is the console war, as it encourages competition which breeds price drops and better games.............



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@ Stracraft , buying exclusives is actualy good for the consumer and developers probably , I just wanted to make microsoft look bad .

I think the other points are valid though.

 

Edit : On Second thoughts a company that has to buy exclusive games and content with money as opposed to the Stength of their platofrm look pretty weak in my opinion.

 And the exclusivity Microsoft bought has only helped MS maintain it's competivness , can't be doing to much for it's profitability.




The problem with the PS3: Price and dev tools.
The problem with the 360: Reliability.

I think MS has done everything right this time around, other then making a piece of hardware that's a steaming pile of shit.

If they made one that was reliable, and quite (I don't care if it's twice the size). I would buy it in a heartbeat and sell the one I have.



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Million said:

On Second thoughts a company that has to buy exclusive games and content with money as opposed to the Stength of their platofrm look pretty weak in my opinion.


That's how every 3rd party game becomes exclusive.



TheRealMafoo said:
Million said:

On Second thoughts a company that has to buy exclusive games and content with money as opposed to the Stength of their platofrm look pretty weak in my opinion.


That's how every 3rd party game becomes exclusive.

Being  a Sony , Microsoft and Nintnendo employees you must know this... Oh right , I forgot....Your not.

 




Million said:

@ Stracraft , buying exclusives is actualy good for the consumer and developers probably , I just wanted to make microsoft look bad .

I think the other points are valid though.

 

Edit : On Second thoughts a company that has to buy exclusive games and content with money as opposed to the Stength of their platofrm look pretty weak in my opinion.

And the exclusivity Microsoft bought has only helped MS maintain it's competivness , can't be doing to much for it's profitability.

I've often thought that the console market is a strong Oligopoly, with overwhelmingly high entry costs that prohibited extra competition.  But I believe the market can support three console makers profitably, which if true, would mean Microsoft being willing to sacrafice billions to enter the market is a wonderful thing for our hobby in the long term.

 



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Although I am not a MS fan, I like XBox360's case design and its clever tri-core PPC CPU. I don't like MS greed, lust for power and sloppiness (that led to so many HW failures) and overall disrespect for its customers, but these are MS' faults, not XBox360's ones.
For what concerns PS3, I like the Cell CPU, but not the implementation used by Sony, had they choosed to have two general purpose PPC cores and one less of the up until now underused SPEs, games developers would have had a much faster start, benefitting the console too.
And when someone decides to use such a complex CPU architecture, he must provide top-notch development tools and libraries, so that programmers haven't to go nuts to make full use of HW.
Also, given PS3's high launch price, 1GB RAM would have been fine.



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i like the 360 because it's very social in the sense that a lot of people in my work place have the 360 with halo 3, and we always have a blast with it online. my main gripe with it is that i personally can't enjoy a game on it unless it's online, because the interface is so online oriented.

i like the ps3 because it feels more comfortable for me to play. i like the space the controller gives you so not all your grip is on the controller, vital for games that require aggresive movement with the controller; ie. fighting games, track and field. my main gripe with he ps3 is that it's inconsistent. there's no standard of designing around the interface like the 360 does. all games have standards to comply to to make the experience as smooth as possible on the 360, the ps3 is lacking this.