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Moongoddess256 on 16 April 2008

As I was saying, its not just there. In the state I live in things are very very similar. Some even call our state government "fascist" for what they do. Here the cops can pull you over for no reason except to check on you.

I think the youth of today are too complacent. Traditionally the youth would protest unfair government policies and didn't fear retaliation from the government. Now kids focus on making their selves look pretty.



[2:08:58 am] Moongoddess256: being asian makes you naturally good at ddr
[2:09:22 am] gnizmo: its a weird genetic thing
[2:09:30 am] gnizmo: goes back to hunting giant crabs in feudal Japan

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konnichiwa on 16 April 2008
ferret1603 said:

@Konnichiwa

No, I've always been a British citizen. I was born in the UAE while my parents were out there teaching for a few years but, being female, I've no right to Emirati citizenship. I left when I was 15 months old so I have no recollection of it and have never been back. All my family are English as far back as we can trace. Parts of my family tree go back to the 1600s.

I want to leave because I feel very very trapped here. Over the past year or so I've begun to think more and more like a North American. The European consciousness seems to be collectivist and quite socialistic even among people who wouldn't categorise themselves as socialists. High taxes, state intrusion in our lives, and the welfare state go largely unquestioned. Those who work hard have 40% of their income taken off them and handed out to other people. I'm an individualist and do not appreciate being forced into these social bonds. I give money to charity where I wish to help but resent having to hand over my money to fund things I disagree with. Our standard of living is falling because of this. Companies are relocating offshore because of the increasing corporate taxes and people cannot afford their fuel bills and rent because of all the money the govenment is taking off them.

The government are also regulating more and more aspects of our lives. They are currently discussing bringing in a smoking licence where you have to pay money and fill in a form to gain a government approved licence in order to buy tobacco. I cannot live in a country that believes that is acceptable. My philosophy revolves around the idea that government should be minimal and here purely to protect our life, liberty and property. In Europe the relationship has turned so that we have to justify our existence and activities to the state. That is anathema to me. The state should be justifying itself to us, not the other way round. I believe it has gone so far there is no chance of reversing it and the only way to regain my liberty is to get out.


 Well yeah you are right about that but this is going on in so many countries trough the world.

I can't say that about Canada/Australia though.

PS: that smoking licence wow..






ferret1094 on 16 April 2008

@moongoddess256 Which state are you in? Get yourself to NH and join the Free State Project



Moongoddess256 on 16 April 2008

Haha, Maine, NH is right next door. I go over there all the time. NH has been making up stupid rules lately too though :( Also because of how they get tax money, schools are miserably underfunded and its virtually impossible for kids to get a decent public education. And going to college there costs ALOT.



[2:08:58 am] Moongoddess256: being asian makes you naturally good at ddr
[2:09:22 am] gnizmo: its a weird genetic thing
[2:09:30 am] gnizmo: goes back to hunting giant crabs in feudal Japan

konnichiwa on 16 April 2008

NH, free state...Did I missed something =p?

Enlgihten me..






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ferret1094 on 16 April 2008

www.freestateproject.org - enjoy!



Flow on 16 April 2008

Good luck on leaving, i hope everything goes allright because it's indeed a big move.

I can't wait to get the hell out of Brazil.




Flow -"The important is to pwn other ppl"

Moongoddess256 on 16 April 2008
konnichiwa said:
NH, free state...Did I missed something =p?

Enlgihten me..

 well they do have "live free or die" on their license plates.

And no income or sales taxes, but painfully high property taxes to compensate. And a horribly low minimum wage, which businesses are not afraid to take advantage of.

and they DID still allow smoking in bars, but they've done away with that within the past year. I think thats silly, if someone has a problem with tobacco they should just go to one of the many bars that didn't allow smoking anyways. 

 Regardless, I would love to live in Portsmouth or Dover. They are just expensive places to live in. And then the state has really nasty shitholes too, like Rochester and Manchester. Those are cheap but hell no I'm not living there.



[2:08:58 am] Moongoddess256: being asian makes you naturally good at ddr
[2:09:22 am] gnizmo: its a weird genetic thing
[2:09:30 am] gnizmo: goes back to hunting giant crabs in feudal Japan

Goodlife on 16 April 2008

How old are you, just out of interest?

And what's your political alignment?



ferret1094 on 16 April 2008

@Moongoddess256 Have you ever been to Seabrook? I like the look of that place. Coastal and not as insanely cold as the rest of it.

@Goodlife I'm 22 and a libertarian. I've never met another UK libertarian in person.