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akuma587 said:
June 23rd, 1996 - Nintendo launches the last cartridge-based home console to date. The inability of software developers to easily port their games from disc-based consoles to the N64 due to size constraints severely harms Nintendo's third party relationships.

 Lol...if we start listing dates for company low points and stupid decisions, there wont be enough room for sega alone let alone everyone.



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FF7 came to the PS1 because Sony bought FF7.

They pumped in MASSIVE amounts of money for that game.

Wasn't that the deal where Sony gave them the building Squaresoft worked in? Or was that the bailout after Spirits Within?



akuma587 said:
June 23rd, 1996 - Nintendo launches the last cartridge-based home console to date. The inability of software developers to easily port their games from disc-based consoles to the N64 due to size constraints severely harms Nintendo's third party relationships.

 Nah, what hurt their third party relationships were they were monopolistic dicks in the NES and SNES eras.  The release of the PS1 is what let them pull away from Nintendo.  A lot were ready to make Nintendo hurt because if they weren't the league leader anymore they couldn't force their draconian exclusivity demands and quality demands on the manufacturers.



Outside of console wars, 3 of the most important dates in gaming history would be the arcade releases of Pac-Man, Donkey Kong, and Street Fighter 2.

Console war wise, you're gonna have to add Wii Fit to that soon.



i'd say the launch of the original Zelda is a milestone as well, and it is interesting as well that it had a battery in the cartridge to save the game.



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Kasz216 said:
FF7 came to the PS1 because Sony bought FF7.

They pumped in MASSIVE amounts of money for that game.

Wasn't that the deal where Sony gave them the building Squaresoft worked in? Or was that the bailout after Spirits Within?

 Does anyone know if this is true? I was never a final fantasy fan nor did i own a ps1 at that time to know aht Sony was doing with their cash...I was saturn all the way :)



disolitude said:
Kasz216 said:
FF7 came to the PS1 because Sony bought FF7.

They pumped in MASSIVE amounts of money for that game.

Wasn't that the deal where Sony gave them the building Squaresoft worked in? Or was that the bailout after Spirits Within?

Does anyone know if this is true? I was never a final fantasy fan nor did i own a ps1 at that time to know aht Sony was doing with their cash...I was saturn all the way :)


 FF7 was on three disks so let's assume it is around 2 gigs of data.  No matter what your compression technology was at the time 2 gigs was not fitting on a 64 cartridge.  I think that is why FF7 went to PS1 and perhaps some money was offered but not massive.



Mil. Sellers:

Wii:      25 titles       101.4 mil total    avg 4 mil per title

PS3:     14 titles      28.6 mil total    avg ~2 mil per title

360:     41 titles      89.8 mil total   avg  >2 mil per title

The reason I thought the N64 launch/cartridge thing was significant was mostly because it was the last cartridge-based console, although it did hurt their already bad third-party relationships.



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disolitude said:
Kasz216 said:
FF7 came to the PS1 because Sony bought FF7.

They pumped in MASSIVE amounts of money for that game.

Wasn't that the deal where Sony gave them the building Squaresoft worked in? Or was that the bailout after Spirits Within?

Does anyone know if this is true? I was never a final fantasy fan nor did i own a ps1 at that time to know aht Sony was doing with their cash...I was saturn all the way :)


 Without a link, its not true.



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

akuma587 said:
disolitude said:
Kasz216 said:
FF7 came to the PS1 because Sony bought FF7.

They pumped in MASSIVE amounts of money for that game.

Wasn't that the deal where Sony gave them the building Squaresoft worked in? Or was that the bailout after Spirits Within?

Does anyone know if this is true? I was never a final fantasy fan nor did i own a ps1 at that time to know aht Sony was doing with their cash...I was saturn all the way :)


Without a link, its not true.


So you want me to dig up old reports about things that are mostly common knowledge from the PS1 days.

Well here we go anyway... 100 Million spent on the game just for advertising... for North America only... which was quite the unprecidented record... let alone for a third party release.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_1997_August_27/ai_19701566

It wouldn't of been on N64, however a multiplatform release wouldn't of been out of the question.

Hell 100 Million is still a lot for advertising.