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Chazore said:
DonFerrari said:

Nope. The argument goes, this games have been on the shortlist for GOTY on most publications and some of them won a lot. With several cases of reviewers giving a higher score for one game and goty to another.

You have all right in the world to want games launched in your platform of choice, but that doesn't make it the most reasonable platform for release all the time and impervious to argument.

Keep on the "talk in english", so funny.

And not because of the reviews right?. They're just auto "awesome" without even having a review or score right?. 

Uhh, excuse me, "reasonable platform for release all the time", please get off that high tower you've taken place in. Many a game is made on PC, especially indie games. it's thanks to the damn platform that you even have any games in the first place. 

That same argument can get flown right back at your face, and don't pull any bullshit tripe like "no it can't", because your system of choice ins't auto impervious to the same argument you use against PC. 

Yes, because your English is pretty damn crap mate. You're on an English speaking forum.

I don't even care about Indie game nor do I cry when one game or another don't come to my platform of choice. Certainly some of those could be a miss for me, but I couldn't care less, if it was really important I would buy the platform and the game.

So we are going to chance the goalpost because I never said anything about metacritic but you tried to shoehorn it as if I had several times with no success?

flashfire926 said:
DonFerrari said:

Nope. The argument goes, this games have been on the shortlist for GOTY on most publications and some of them won a lot. With several cases of reviewers giving a higher score for one game and goty to another.

You have all right in the world to want games launched in your platform of choice, but that doesn't make it the most reasonable platform for release all the time and impervious to argument..

Keep on the "talk in english", so funny

Yeah, resorting to insults is exactly what some one does when they're on the losing side of the argument. Don't take it too seriously, your english is just fine.

I don't mind it. I know I have a lot of things to improve on my English, probably he doesn't speak 4 languages and usually other people who aren't part of the argument understand what was said but the person prefers to dismiss it.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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DonFerrari said:

I don't even care about Indie game nor do I cry when one game or another don't come to my platform of choice. Certainly some of those could be a miss for me, but I couldn't care less, if it was really important I would buy the platform and the game.

So we are going to chance the goalpost because I never said anything about metacritic but you tried to shoehorn it as if I had several times with no success?

flashfire926 said:

Yeah, resorting to insults is exactly what some one does when they're on the losing side of the argument. Don't take it too seriously, your english is just fine.

I don't mind it. I know I have a lot of things to improve on my English, probably he doesn't speak 4 languages and usually other people who aren't part of the argument understand what was said but the person prefers to dismiss it.

I know you don't, but millions of others actually do. People out there care and ask for said indie games to come to Switch, hell we have plenty of Nintendo fans coming to Steam's forums to ask for Switch ports, and the devs take the time of day to answer those questions from time to time. People definitely do care and do want to buy said indie games on their platform of choice, and there is absolutely nothing wrong about that. 

What's stupid, is claiming they don;t matter, then suddenly pulling ye old "they won't survive without Sony", which we've seen before, acting as if that userbase>all else (when in reality it's mobile> everyone else).

"are we going to chance the goalpost"?. I don't even know mate. I wish I knew what you meant by that. 

"he doesn't speak 4 languages", and why does that suddenly matter?. Actually no, not everyone understands other languages, believe it or not, so don't pull that crap with me, telling me I "Prefer to dismiss it". I flat out do not understand your broken English, and this is an issue, on a forum where the majority speak English.

People can see that as rude as much as they want, but don't even dare calling it rude when you're in an area that speaks English. I know damn well that if I went to China, I'd have to speak some Chinese to get around and understand what's going on. I know to adhere to the country's language origin.



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.

Chazore said:
DonFerrari said:

I don't even care about Indie game nor do I cry when one game or another don't come to my platform of choice. Certainly some of those could be a miss for me, but I couldn't care less, if it was really important I would buy the platform and the game.

So we are going to chance the goalpost because I never said anything about metacritic but you tried to shoehorn it as if I had several times with no success?

I don't mind it. I know I have a lot of things to improve on my English, probably he doesn't speak 4 languages and usually other people who aren't part of the argument understand what was said but the person prefers to dismiss it.

I know you don't, but millions of others actually do. People out there care and ask for said indie games to come to Switch, hell we have plenty of Nintendo fans coming to Steam's forums to ask for Switch ports, and the devs take the time of day to answer those questions from time to time. People definitely do care and do want to buy said indie games on their platform of choice, and there is absolutely nothing wrong about that. 

What's stupid, is claiming they don;t matter, then suddenly pulling ye old "they won't survive without Sony", which we've seen before, acting as if that userbase>all else (when in reality it's mobile> everyone else).

"are we going to chance the goalpost"?. I don't even know mate. I wish I knew what you meant by that. 

"he doesn't speak 4 languages", and why does that suddenly matter?. Actually no, not everyone understands other languages, believe it or not, so don't pull that crap with me, telling me I "Prefer to dismiss it". I flat out do not understand your broken English, and this is an issue, on a forum where the majority speak English.

People can see that as rude as much as they want, but don't even dare calling it rude when you're in an area that speaks English. I know damn well that if I went to China, I'd have to speak some Chinese to get around and understand what's going on. I know to adhere to the country's language origin.

That's a truckload of elitist bullshit I understood what he said maybe your comprehension needs to be fine tuned since he wasn't using a foreign language he was doing what you asked  in  english. 



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I can understand every single word he's saying, Chazore. Maybe its your reading and comprehension skills that need finetuning.



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mjk45 said:

That's a truckload of elitist bullshit I understood what he said maybe your comprehension needs to be fine tuned since he wasn't using a foreign language he was doing what you asked  in  english. 

Bullshit to you, and I see it all the time around here.

I don't see how broken English can be excused, but one who speaks English needs to "comprehend" broken English that bit more. 

flashfire926 said:

I can understand every single word he's saying, Chazore. Maybe its your reading and comprehension skills that need finetuning.

Maybe he needs to not be excused for speaking in broken English?.

YOu two talk about rudeness and yet I see it being displayed back at me.

 

Again, if you want this to go completely off topic and pick a fight, you're choosing the wrong place (because you very much are with your tone).



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Chazore said:
mjk45 said:

That's a truckload of elitist bullshit I understood what he said maybe your comprehension needs to be fine tuned since he wasn't using a foreign language he was doing what you asked  in  english. 

Bullshit to you, and I see it all the time around here.

I don't see how broken English can be excused, but one who speaks English needs to "comprehend" broken English that bit more. 

flashfire926 said:

I can understand every single word he's saying, Chazore. Maybe its your reading and comprehension skills that need finetuning.

Maybe he needs to not be excused for speaking in broken English?.

YOu two talk about rudeness and yet I see it being displayed back at me.

 

Again, if you want this to go completely off topic and pick a fight, you're choosing the wrong place (because you very much are with your tone).

Oh please, you're the one who's derailing the thread, so dont show me that attitude.

I'm not even a native english speaker myself, and I can understand EVERY. SINGLE. WORD. He's saying. Please keep your bullshit elitism out of here.



Bet with Intrinsic:

The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.

flashfire926 said:

Oh please, you're the one who's derailing the thread, so dont show me that attitude.

I'm not even a native english speaker myself, and I can understand EVERY. SINGLE. WORD. He's saying. Please keep your bullshit elitism out of here.

Two of you have decided to make it the biggest thing, so no, don't go showing me that attitude either. 

Well that explains the rush to defending him not having to answer one simple question.

Keep your bullshit elitism out of here yourself. 



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.

flashfire926 said:

I can understand every single word he's saying, Chazore. Maybe its your reading and comprehension skills that need finetuning.

Don't bother he's made it clear that he won't change his attitude,  it's obvious that he became frustrated after all he was fine for all those other replies, let's leave it to DonFerrari .



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Chazore said:
DonFerrari said:

I don't even care about Indie game nor do I cry when one game or another don't come to my platform of choice. Certainly some of those could be a miss for me, but I couldn't care less, if it was really important I would buy the platform and the game.

So we are going to chance the goalpost because I never said anything about metacritic but you tried to shoehorn it as if I had several times with no success?

I don't mind it. I know I have a lot of things to improve on my English, probably he doesn't speak 4 languages and usually other people who aren't part of the argument understand what was said but the person prefers to dismiss it.

I know you don't, but millions of others actually do. People out there care and ask for said indie games to come to Switch, hell we have plenty of Nintendo fans coming to Steam's forums to ask for Switch ports, and the devs take the time of day to answer those questions from time to time. People definitely do care and do want to buy said indie games on their platform of choice, and there is absolutely nothing wrong about that. 

What's stupid, is claiming they don;t matter, then suddenly pulling ye old "they won't survive without Sony", which we've seen before, acting as if that userbase>all else (when in reality it's mobile> everyone else).

"are we going to chance the goalpost"?. I don't even know mate. I wish I knew what you meant by that. 

"he doesn't speak 4 languages", and why does that suddenly matter?. Actually no, not everyone understands other languages, believe it or not, so don't pull that crap with me, telling me I "Prefer to dismiss it". I flat out do not understand your broken English, and this is an issue, on a forum where the majority speak English.

People can see that as rude as much as they want, but don't even dare calling it rude when you're in an area that speaks English. I know damn well that if I went to China, I'd have to speak some Chinese to get around and understand what's going on. I know to adhere to the country's language origin.

Chazore, most people that visit Brazil don't talk portuguese, while most Brazilians don't speak English. Still both will try their best to be polite and understand one another.

Nope didn't say Indie don't mater, but they infact don't mater as much as AAA when deciding which platform to buy. And considering their technical requirements usually are very light it doesn't really need much to access and play an Indie of your choice.

But please explain what good Indies have to do with GOTY being mostly on console exclusivity (or first release)??? Do Indies going to finance Bungie?

Last edited by DonFerrari - on 15 January 2019

duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

And back to topic.

With Activision out of the way and they probably not wanting to go back to MS (sure they could, and current MS leadership could give they the money without creative strings attached), who would they go to that could provide over 100M financing with high risk, very late payout? I really don't see many companies willing to do it, and if they do probably would want a lot of monetization to increase profit and then we would be complaining about these practices.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."