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CAL4M1TY on 14 April 2008

On topic:

I'd say 09 is better than 08, only because a heap of supposed 08 titles will most definitely end up in the 09 lineup (GoW3, FF13, GT5 etc).



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windbane on 14 April 2008

Similarly on topic: I think it's clear we won't know until at least later this year when we know more release dates. There are likely games we aren't talking about for both this year and next that will change peoples' minds.



SpartanFX on 14 April 2008
windbane said:
starcraft said:
Rainbird said:
starcraft said:
Rainbird said:
 

Starcraft, just because we haven't seen any real benefit to the blu-ray yet, doesn't mean developers can't use the blu-ray for what it offers. Afterall, all that extra space can easily lure a developer who knows their vision and can tell that they need this extra space. So if it is true that R* have plans to "fill a BD", it is perfectly reasonable to assume it wont be on the X360.

About the multiplatform games, it's true that they aren't "restricted" by the DVD, but I'm sure that some of the games would have been different on some levels because they weren't restricted by space.

But then again, you can never showcase a console by showing games that are multiplat, because the developers usually strive to make the games look and feel the same on both consoles.

 

EDIT:

 

Good one about PGR4, I had completely forgot about that!

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/30/bizarre-confirms-pgr4s-cities-comments-on-dvd-constraints/

 

I think so far Blu-Ray's lower read speeds have hindered rather than helped PS3 games. It is dicussed extensively in this thread:

http://vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=22092

 


I still feel convinced that with the right streaming system and placing of files on the BD, the BD drive read speed is not enough to counter a minimum of 25 GB of available space. But this of course only makes sense if you plan to use all that space.


But to counter the read speed issue, many devs are having to put the same data (duplicated) on various parts of the disc to make it easier to access.

Whats the point in having extra space if your only using it to counter a lower read speed?  All that does is cost developers money.

At the end of the day, Blu-Ray simply isn't delivering the longer, better games it was promised it would.  All it is doing is increasing game prices. 

 


This is retarded and an outdated arguement. Read speeds for 2x blu-ray is faster than a DL DVD and faster than the slow half of a 4.3GB DVD. Only the fastest parts of a single-layer DVD are faster than the PS3's blu-ray. Blu-ray read speeds are uniform across the entire disc. Not only that, but hard drives are much faster and being able to install games enables the blu-ray to hold 50GB that is not redundant (and the parts that are needed to be loaded faster go here instead of the part of a DVD that reads faster than 2x blu-ray). We have seen several games that would require several DVDs to hold (look at Blue Dragon and Lost Odessey). The situation for MGS4 (or other games if you don't believe it actually needs 50GB of space, whatever) will have a similar effect than trying to put FF7 on the N64 and requiring lots of catridges (granted discs are cheaper). Read speeds are not an issue, and extra space is already proving to be a great boon for developers. Blu-ray isn't supposed to deliver "the longer, better games." Who says extra space automatically means games need to be longer? I like shorter games. That space can also be used for better graphics, more sound tracks, blu-ray movie add-ons (Stranglehold), etc. More space has always been a great thing for so many reasons. Acting like it's failed because Heavenly Sword isn't a long game is just ridiculous. As for better games...try looking at Uncharted's graphics and then think how awesome it is to play with NO LOAD TIMES. I'd say the read speed is just fine there. Increasing game prices? Not for the consumer, so who cares? The prices will drop, especially since more factories will be focusing on the discs because of the end of the format war. I've got a great idea, though. Why don't we just go back to using CDs since more space doesn't matter? Why should we repeat our past mistakes of transitioning to a format with more space? Afterall, many PS2 games were released on CDs so clearly that was enough space! Geez...

starcraft is not gonna read this ,I m sure .He is gonna repeat the same false argument in every other thread(Starcraft here is another example of false info about bluray on your part)

I am personally done arguing with some one who's incapable of learning for now

@Moneybag

couldn't you program the AI better? XD



 

 

 

smbu2000 on 14 April 2008
Dallinor said:
starcraft said:
dabaus513 said:
Either way its more stacked than the 360's 08 and 09 lineup combined.

lol. Right. Things have changed in the last 6 months buddy. Games got delayed etc. The 360's 2008 line-up is now easily comparable to the PS3's, more diverse, and some would argue, better.

Here was the spark on the dry timber of Sony fans hearts.

Haha, that really cracked me up! The funniest thing I've heard all day! nice one

OT: starcraft makes logical arguments, but the Sony fanboys seem to ignore those and just attack him...where's the starcraft love?

Also is Uncharted 2 really going to come out in 2009? That seems rather quick for a sequel as the first one came out at the end of 2007, right?




starcraft: "I and every PS3 fanboy alive are waiting for Versus more than FFXIII.
Me since the games were revealed, the fanboys since E3."

Skeeuk: "playstation 3 is the ultimate in gaming acceleration"

WhiteDevil on 14 April 2008

ok i didnt even read this last page, im sick of seeing the name starcraft.

You always get into fight in a Sony Topic. When the hell are you gonna learn that when u enter a sony topic. IT ABOUT SONY AND NOT MS! Im frinkin sick of seeing this happen.

Its about Sonys lineup 09 vs 08 NOT

Sonys line up 08 vs MS 08

Please stop derailing threads.



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crumas2 on 14 April 2008
BMaker11 said:
crumas2 said:
 

What is GOW 3? It couldn't be Gears of War 3, because that will definitely not be an exclusive for the PS3 unless GOW 2 bombs on the 360.

 


Dude.....God of War 3. It's the ORIGINAL GOW. If you want to abbreviate Gears, you call it GeOW (wack)

@OP

Can you even put Afrika on the list? I mean, wtf is it? A more real life version of Pokemon Snap, except with real animals? lol


Doh! Too many TLAs...

 



starcraft on 14 April 2008
SpartanFX said:
windbane said:
starcraft said:
 

starcraft is not gonna read this ,I m sure .He is gonna repeat the same false argument in every other thread(Starcraft here is another example of false info about bluray on your part)

I am personally done arguing with some one who's incapable of learning for now

@Moneybag

couldn't you program the AI better? XD


Actually most use of the HDD isn't provided as an option, but is mandated.  Regardless of the theoretical capabilities of both machines, what has been found is that devs are more efficiently able to use DVD9, not Blu-Ray.  This may change of course, but as yet, the Blu-Ray drive's read speed is a limitation, not part of an asset.

starcraft - Playing Games = FUN, Talking about Games = SERIOUS

smbu2000 on 14 April 2008
WhiteDevil said:
ok i didnt even read this last page, im sick of seeing the name starcraft.

You always get into fight in a Sony Topic. When the hell are you gonna learn that when u enter a sony topic. IT ABOUT SONY AND NOT MS! Im frinkin sick of seeing this happen.

Its about Sonys lineup 09 vs 08 NOT

Sonys line up 08 vs MS 08

Please stop derailing threads.

 I'm pretty sure this was the comment that opened the door for the Sony/MS comparison (it wasn't starcraft):

dabaus513 said:
Either way its more stacked than the 360's 08 and 09 lineup combined.
It's on the first page, so you can see for yourself...

 




starcraft: "I and every PS3 fanboy alive are waiting for Versus more than FFXIII.
Me since the games were revealed, the fanboys since E3."

Skeeuk: "playstation 3 is the ultimate in gaming acceleration"

Million on 14 April 2008

I think that 09's lineup is likely to be better than 08's , I think there will be more exclusives announced between now and then for the PS3.




starcraft on 14 April 2008
smbu2000 said:
WhiteDevil said:
ok i didnt even read this last page, im sick of seeing the name starcraft.

You always get into fight in a Sony Topic. When the hell are you gonna learn that when u enter a sony topic. IT ABOUT SONY AND NOT MS! Im frinkin sick of seeing this happen.

Its about Sonys lineup 09 vs 08 NOT

Sonys line up 08 vs MS 08

Please stop derailing threads.

I'm pretty sure this was the comment that opened the door for the Sony/MS comparison (it wasn't starcraft):

dabaus513 said:
Either way its more stacked than the 360's 08 and 09 lineup combined.
It's on the first page, so you can see for yourself...

 

But of course, expecting that kind of logic and due process from the Sony fans currently in this thread is a bit unrealistic

Spartan is so funny.  I owned him and he disappeared and wouldn't come back until someone else came up with a valid means of argument, which he then tried to claim as his own evidence that I am a fanboy.  At least windbane attacked what I said, rather than me personally. 

 



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