| HappySqurriel said: If simply having the Wii as a lead platform means that you will never buy new games ... That's quite the shallow opinion. |
"Like you know"
| Million said: @HappySquirrel and your wrong. |
How can you say that if you just said in that other thread that you're not a tech-savvy guy?
| NeoRatt said: Call of Duty 5 is supposed to ship on the Wii... Maybe then, we will finally get a multiplatform game that uses all of the power of 360 and PS3 to compare to the Wii... |
==> + PS2
Time to Work !
HappySqurriel said:
Yes, the scale is called the Arbitrary scale and is used by people in an attempt to prove a point that they can not prove. One of the main problems with these arguments is people like Squilliam take unconfirmed rumored specs about the Wii, assume they're correct and assume that Nintendo made no improvements beyond increasing the clockspeed; when you look at the confirmed specs (like die size comparison between the Gekko/Flipper and Broadway/Hollywood processors) it becomes clear that this assumption is false. On top of this, people look at games which run at 30fps and are rendered at a resolution below 720p and claim that these games are representative of the PS3/XBox 360 while only considering Wii games which run at a steady 60fps at 480p as being representative of Wii games; if you reversed this bias and only considered Wii games that ran at 30fps, and PS3/XBox 360 games which ran at 60fps at full 720p the "massive" advantage the PS3 and XBox 360 have would look much smaller. I'm not saying the Wii is in the same league as the PS3 and XBox 360, but the claim that is made by many (typically Sony) fanboys that the Wii is only slightly more powerful than the PS2 is false; anyone who is being reasonable will probably agree that the Wii is far closer to the midpoint between the PS2 and the PS3 than it is to either console. |
This post is full of win. READ THIS people.
Now for the people who said 10x more impressive just by looking at a game how the hell could you do that? Do you have special eyes that say 10x more than smg in graphical quality. Back this up with technical facts. Most people discredit the wii for ps2 graphics , because the wii is getting ps2 ports. Smg barely even pushed the wii so why can't there be even better graphics?
about the sonic game.....it seems awesome!!
(i can hardly believe that these are wii screenshots!!)
my best console is wii, because of gameplay and style of games, i hate shooters, but i don't think agruing about graphics will help in any way.....
but it's for sure that ps3/xbox360 graphics are better than wii, but now, with this game, they seem to be closer!!
can you believe that i get people asking like: "wow, is this the ps3, i wanna try it!! hm....what is difference between Ps3 and Ps2??"
bluh......they don't even notice that ps3 graphics are better than wii..... :p
HappySqurriel said:
On top of this, people look at games which run at 30fps and are rendered at a resolution below 720p and claim that these games are representative of the PS3/XBox 360 while only considering Wii games which run at a steady 60fps at 480p as being representative of Wii games; if you reversed this bias and only considered Wii games that ran at 30fps, and PS3/XBox 360 games which ran at 60fps at full 720p the "massive" advantage the PS3 and XBox 360 have would look much smaller. I'm not saying the Wii is in the same league as the PS3 and XBox 360, but the claim that is made by many (typically Sony) fanboys that the Wii is only slightly more powerful than the PS2 is false; anyone who is being reasonable will probably agree that the Wii is far closer to the midpoint between the PS2 and the PS3 than it is to either console. |
GT5p runs at a native 1280x1080 at 60FPS, With 16cars at once on screen all with an average of 200k polys each. The PS3 also has games that are native 1920x1080 at 60FPS. These games look way over 4x better then any game on the wii. Now tell me how the massive advantage has dissapeared.
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I own a Wii and no title yet has lead me to belive that the graphics are any better than the GC. I'd say the Wii probably can't handle some Xbox original games like DOA. I know i'm probably wrong, but untill a Wii game comes out that doesn't look like a Gamecube game, i won't believe otherwise.
| Kyros said: will probably agree that the Wii is far closer to the midpoint between the PS2 and the PS3 than it is to either console. I think here you delude yourself a bit. Midpoint is as arbitrary a statement as xtimes better but the simple fact remains that the Wii is an enhanced Gamecube while the 360/PS3 have graphic cards that are only eclipsed by very few gaming PCs with all technological advances and CPUs to match. And I don't say enhanced Gamecube to play it down, its just true, the Wii got all the advantages of using legacy technology as basis: - cheap price - fast development (putting out all big N franchises like Smash, Mario, MEtroid and Zelda in a strong year wouldn't have been possible with a completely new architecture - full backward compatibility but 1/6 the memory of PS3/360, no real pixel/vertex shaders (which is "confirmed" AFAIK) simply put it nearer to the last gen than to PC/360/PS3. Size comparisons between chips are a bit desperate to contradict that . And if you take the best Wii games and compare them to the best PS3/360 games like Uncharted, Call of Duty, Gran Turismo which run silky smooth in 60FPS(Call of Duty4, GT) and for example GT have even higher resolutions than 720p I am really astonished how anyone can pretend that the gulf is smaller. http://wii.gaming-universe.de/screengalerie/5288.jpg http://wii.gaming-universe.de/screen.php3?show=http://wii.gaming-universe.de/screengalerie/5066.jpg&title=Metroid%2520Prime%25203:%2520Corruption http://wiimedia.ign.com/wii/image/article/833/833298/super-mario-galaxy-20071107020423368_640w.jpg http://static.4players.de/premium/Screenshots/ea/6a/1778668-vollbild.jpg vs. http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/796/796450/call-of-duty-4-modern-warfare-20070613104409229_640w.jpg http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/796/796450/call-of-duty-4-modern-warfare-20070613104412307.jpg http://www.gameware.at/screenshots/Assassins_Creed_1.jpg http://images.amazon.com/images/G/03/videogames/features/assassins_creed_sprung_big.jpg http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/805/805900/gran-turismo-5-prologue-20070717071557845.jpg Of course there are better screenshots for Wii games and worse for ps3/360 games but come on. You can argue that graphics do not matter much but I think its hard to argue that the difference is smaller than people perceive it to be. |
That paragraph is exactly what I was going to say, but your entire post said it 10x better than anything I could've come up with.
And to the guys getting so defensive about the Wii, does it really matter if it's not that powerful? The games are still fun as hell. Honestly, the thing launched at only $250 for a reason (and sold at a profit, no less), and that's because the internal hardware just isn't up to snuff compared to the other consoles.
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