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Forums - Sales Discussion - PS4 Won February NPD (PS4: 363K, XBO: 310K, NSW: 279K)

RolStoppable said:
quickrick said:

I came to talk about switch sales vs ps4 sales, this is a sales sight after all right? things that are considered ridiculous and negative that came out to be true.

my predictions

1: we need to wait and see if amazon is a good indicator for switch in 2018, so far it isn't  

2: ps4 will double switch sales in november 2017

3: ps4 and switch will be very close in JAN regardless of how its dominating on amazon 

3: switch will be third in February

Now list what you got wrong.

switch falling of a cliff, and December npd results.



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Despite coming in last place for the month (which for me was not unexpected due to MH for PS4 which I believed would push current owners to potentially upgrade to PS4 Pro and the discounts on Xbox One both of which would those platforms to increase their unit sales), Switch sales are quite good for its first February (it done comparatively well to other platforms in their first February).

The biggest surprise for me was PS4 outperforming Xbox One. I was expecting Xbox One to come in first for this month because of the discounts. My hunch here is that while the PS4 Slim remains the top selling model for the PS4 platform, MHW may have spurred a greater number of current owners to purchase a PS4 Pro (this hunch is based on increased rankings. I wish that we could get a breakdown of PS4 Slim, PS4 Pro, Xbox One S, and Xbox One X to see if the data confirms or disavows my hunch.

More specifically with regards to Xbox One, considering the US is a strong market for this system and it was positioned well for tax returns month, I wonder if the tracking period potentially did not fully cover the discount period. If this turns out to be wrong then I guess the discount period was simple not long enough to allow Xbox to take the month.

Does anyone know what the tracking period was for February NPD? Also what is the tracking period for March (with regards to March, I am currently pegging the Switch to come out on top due to it toping charts on Amazon and Best Buy and improving its position at GameStop but if part of the March tracking period falls during the Xbox One's discount period then Xbox would be in a very strong position)?



nemo37 said:
Despite coming in last place for the month (which for me was not unexpected due to MH for PS4 which I believed would push current owners to potentially upgrade to PS4 Pro and the discounts on Xbox One both of which would those platforms to increase their unit sales), Switch sales are quite good for its first February (it done comparatively well to other platforms in their first February).

The biggest surprise for me was PS4 outperforming Xbox One. I was expecting Xbox One to come in first for this month because of the discounts. My hunch here is that while the PS4 Slim remains the top selling model for the PS4 platform, MHW may have spurred a greater number of current owners to purchase a PS4 Pro (this hunch is based on increased rankings. I wish that we could get a breakdown of PS4 Slim, PS4 Pro, Xbox One S, and Xbox One X to see if the data confirms or disavows my hunch.

More specifically with regards to Xbox One, considering the US is a strong market for this system and it was positioned well for tax returns month, I wonder if the tracking period potentially did not fully cover the discount period. If this turns out to be wrong then I guess the discount period was simple not long enough to allow Xbox to take the month.

Does anyone know what the tracking period was for February NPD? Also what is the tracking period for March (with regards to March, I am currently pegging the Switch to come out on top due to it toping charts on Amazon and Best Buy and improving its position at GameStop but if part of the March tracking period falls during the Xbox One's discount period then Xbox would be in a very strong position)?

ps4 is ahead  of switchat best buy and gamestop, i check almost every 2 days.



Switch momentum is gonna drop like vita



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quickrick said:
zorg1000 said:

Thats not true in the slightest.

Look at his post history, its almost exclusively about Nintendo and 99% of the time its something negative, he barely even talks about PS4 unless its to discredit Switch.

He joined this site for the sole purpose of talking bad about a single company/product.

I came to talk about switch sales vs ps4 sales, this is a sales sight after all right? things that are considered ridiculous and negative that came out to be true.

my predictions

1: we need to wait and see if amazon is a good indicator for switch in 2018, so far it isn't  

2: ps4 will double switch sales in november 2017

3: ps4 and switch will be very close in JAN regardless of how its dominating on amazon 

3: switch will be third in February

 

Yes, feel free to discuss sales all you want, the problem is thats not what you do.

You go out of your way to talk down about Nintendo/Switch and the only time you mention the others is if its used to put down Nintendo/Switch.



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zorg1000 said:
quickrick said:

I came to talk about switch sales vs ps4 sales, this is a sales sight after all right? things that are considered ridiculous and negative that came out to be true.

my predictions

1: we need to wait and see if amazon is a good indicator for switch in 2018, so far it isn't  

2: ps4 will double switch sales in november 2017

3: ps4 and switch will be very close in JAN regardless of how its dominating on amazon 

3: switch will be third in February

 

Yes, feel free to discuss sales all you want, the problem is thats not what you do.

You go out of your way to talk down about Nintendo/Switch and the only time you mention the others is if its used to put down Nintendo/Switch.

if you mean talking down is bring up valid points then fine, but i have stopped lately, because it's best to wait for npd day and see your predictions is right , anyway all i said is this month it looks like switch momentum is slowing, next month it can change, but this month it's differently not in line with ps4 average monthly sales like other months.  



RolStoppable said:
quickrick said:

switch falling of a cliff, and December npd results.

Another failure was "Switch won't win a single NPD in 2018."

If the right and wrong things you said are weighted, the wrong things outweigh the right things because you get the big things wrong. And since you pretty much always predict the same thing, what you get right has nothing to do with a reasonable evaluation, but rather is merely an instance of reality aligning with your bias occasionally.

You aren't unlike the Miami Dolphins fan I had in the NFL prediction league who always predicted wins for the Dolphins and losses for the Patriots, Bills and Jets. Nobody gave him credit for winning a week with crazy upsets in the prediction league, because we all knew that no sincere analysis went into his picks.

thanks for your opinion, but predictions are not based bias, it's what i believe is gonna happen, switch just can not compete with ps4 imo, and this year ps4 will widen the gap by a nice margin. i already stated my opinion why.



Im not even sure how you could come to the dense conclusion momentum is slowing down?



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kirby007 said:
Im not even sure how you could come to the dense conclusion momentum is slowing down?

believe me if ps4 only did 280k everyone would be saying the same thing, but because i'm saying it, it's a dense conclusion, just ignore me :). 



quickrick said:
kirby007 said:
Im not even sure how you could come to the dense conclusion momentum is slowing down?

believe me if ps4 only did 280k everyone would be saying the same thing, but because i'm saying it, it's a dense conclusion, just ignore me :). 

You dont look at any external factors do you?



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