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starcraft on 12 April 2008
PooperScooper said:
starcraft said:
I don't recall any Wii fans at all claiming the 360 wasn't experiencing shortages. Fanboys of course, alongside the PS3 fanboys will happily claim anything bad they can think of for another console. But in the end what proof did you have to negate the claims of retailers, Microsoft and the general gaming community?

You saw some Arcade's in your local bestbuy?

if i had a digital camera I would have wrote my name on a paper and took a photo of the pyramids of pros at the BB in chicago. (In case you don't know major city. so enough people buying stuff) Since mid Feburary.

And you don't re-call Wii fans saying anything about it because if you did you wouldn't have a case. But the fan that comes to my mind the most is BigJohn. But I know there were many others. You were just to quick to write everyone of them calling BS as a Ps3 fan to notice.


So you concede that the ONLY basis you had to doubt MS, retailers (no reason to lie) and the broader gaming population was your local best buy?

 



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starcraft on 12 April 2008
Gnizmo said:
BCNR34 said:
starcraft needs a ban, hes getting out of control

A bunch of posters attack him and he then responds and somehow he is out of control? He is doing nothing but responding to people insulting him (justified or not) and you want him banned? This is the saddest post I have read all day.


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PooperScooper on 12 April 2008
starcraft said:
PooperScooper said:
starcraft said:
I don't recall any Wii fans at all claiming the 360 wasn't experiencing shortages. Fanboys of course, alongside the PS3 fanboys will happily claim anything bad they can think of for another console. But in the end what proof did you have to negate the claims of retailers, Microsoft and the general gaming community?

You saw some Arcade's in your local bestbuy?

if i had a digital camera I would have wrote my name on a paper and took a photo of the pyramids of pros at the BB in chicago. (In case you don't know major city. so enough people buying stuff) Since mid Feburary.

And you don't re-call Wii fans saying anything about it because if you did you wouldn't have a case. But the fan that comes to my mind the most is BigJohn. But I know there were many others. You were just to quick to write everyone of them calling BS as a Ps3 fan to notice.


So you concede that the ONLY basis you had to doubt MS, retailers (no reason to lie) and the broader gaming population was your local best buy?

 


You have such a one track mind. I'm done with your petty argument. You don't even know what you are talking about. Like a freaking said so many times before but you refuse to get it through your thick skull. sure they had a shortage. but not when MS was claiming it. This is why people called BS on it. It wasn't that long of a period that they were stating.

Ferret people can get banned for getting too wound/worked up. I'ts a one day ban and its more of a time out to cool down.



Gnizmo on 12 April 2008
Rock_on_2008 said:
The 360's DLC @ $30 a pop will only add like an extra 10 hours to GTA 4. GTA 4 on its own reportedly takes over 100 hours to complete. I guess GTA 4 is like the next Oblivion with its extra chapters DLC.
It would not surprise me if a Game of the Year edition of GTA 4 is released next year on both consoles that contains all the additional DLC in it.

Do you have hard numbers on that or are you just making up imaginary figures to downplay the extra content? I don't recall hearing any info on what the extra content is or is not, and certainly haven't heard a bit on pricing. I can make up some numbers that would make it seem foolish to buy any version other than the 360 one, but with no hard info whats the point?



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Gnizmo on 12 April 2008
PooperScooper said:

You have such a one track mind. I'm done with your petty argument. You don't even know what you are talking about. Like a freaking said so many times before but you refuse to get it through your thick skull. sure they had a shortage. but not when MS was claiming it. This is why people called BS on it. It wasn't that long of a period that they were stating.

Ferret people can get banned for getting too wound/worked up. I'ts a one day ban and its more of a time out to cool down.


So he calls you out on using anecdotal evidence and suddenly he is not worth arguing with anymore? You are the one that started the entire arguement with no real evidence to back it up. I don't believe their was ever a big enough shortage to cause the problems Microsoft claims they had, but I don't have anything to back that claim up so I just drop the subject. There is no reason to insult someone for calling you out on your weak arguement.



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BCNR34 on 12 April 2008
Gnizmo said:
PooperScooper said:
 

You have such a one track mind. I'm done with your petty argument. You don't even know what you are talking about. Like a freaking said so many times before but you refuse to get it through your thick skull. sure they had a shortage. but not when MS was claiming it. This is why people called BS on it. It wasn't that long of a period that they were stating.

Ferret people can get banned for getting too wound/worked up. I'ts a one day ban and its more of a time out to cool down.


So he calls you out on using anecdotal evidence and suddenly he is not worth arguing with anymore? You are the one that started the entire arguement with no real evidence to back it up. I don't believe their was ever a big enough shortage to cause the problems Microsoft claims they had, but I don't have anything to back that claim up so I just drop the subject. There is no reason to insult someone for calling you out on your weak arguement.


 starcraft didn't you read the new forum rules? you're not allowed to have more than one account.



PooperScooper on 12 April 2008
Gnizmo said:
PooperScooper said:
 

You have such a one track mind. I'm done with your petty argument. You don't even know what you are talking about. Like a freaking said so many times before but you refuse to get it through your thick skull. sure they had a shortage. but not when MS was claiming it. This is why people called BS on it. It wasn't that long of a period that they were stating.

Ferret people can get banned for getting too wound/worked up. I'ts a one day ban and its more of a time out to cool down.


So he calls you out on using anecdotal evidence and suddenly he is not worth arguing with anymore? You are the one that started the entire arguement with no real evidence to back it up. I don't believe their was ever a big enough shortage to cause the problems Microsoft claims they had, but I don't have anything to back that claim up so I just drop the subject. There is no reason to insult someone for calling you out on your weak arguement.


When so many people are saying it that live all over the states compared to one person saying it in australia you got to weigh the "anecdotal" evidence.

anyway this thread is about Europe bundles. we got on this subject because starcraft was speculating AGAIN on a continent he doesn't even live on.



Gnizmo on 12 April 2008
BCNR34 said:

 starcraft didn't you read the new forum rules? you're not allowed to have more than one account.


You are claiming I am an alt account of starcraft when I have near 750 posts, have a very noticeable Wii lean, and have all of one 360 game listed in the games I own section? Try to put a little effort into your posts. It will make reading them so much more enjoyable. You might have been able to get away with calling me a 360 fanboy, or Microsoft apologist, but claiming I am an alt account is pretty pathetic. Not surprising in the least mind you, but still a little sad.



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Gnizmo on 12 April 2008
PooperScooper said:

 


When so many people are saying it that live all over the states compared to one person saying it in australia you got to weigh the "anecdotal" evidence.

anyway this thread is about Europe bundles. we got on this subject because starcraft was speculating AGAIN on a continent he doesn't even live on.


I give no more weight to starcrafts anecdotal evidence than I do to yours. What appears to be the case, and what is actually happening tend to be very different. As I said, I don't believe them for a second on the whole shortage buisness, but they are the only source of hard data around. You can claim they are lying, but at the end of the day the people defending Microsoft will always have a stronger case. The closest to hard evidence that will ever come out to prove Microsoft wrong will come in the NPD data for March.



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BCNR34 on 12 April 2008
Gnizmo said:
BCNR34 said:
 

starcraft didn't you read the new forum rules? you're not allowed to have more than one account.


You are claiming I am an alt account of starcraft when I have near 750 posts, have a very noticeable Wii lean, and have all of one 360 game listed in the games I own section? Try to put a little effort into your posts. It will make reading them so much more enjoyable. You might have been able to get away with calling me a 360 fanboy, or Microsoft apologist, but claiming I am an alt account is pretty pathetic. Not surprising in the least mind you, but still a little sad.


you could easily be like riot of the blood and have seperate accounts for seperate console support.