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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
vivster said:

Why would they if the Switch is selling that well? Unless you think the Switch isn't a plastic toy more than an actual piece of technology, which I would disagree with.

It definitely doesn't look like a cheap piece of plastic. It looks nice and sleek. I know you might just be taking the piss, and even if you're not your opinion is fine. But it feels more like a nice piece of tech, which is how most tech sites are treating it, rather than just a cheap gimmicky toy. 

It feels like a toy and misses many essential features that we have come accustomed to in actual tech gadgets. It is a toy that has one specific purpose. It would be an insult to compare it with something as technologically advanced as a smartphone. Though a lot of it doesn't have to do with the technology that is inside it and rather what the platform holder is doing, or not doing, with it. I mean it's a pretty bold move to have a bluetooth capable mobile device that does not allow you to couple your bluetooth devices with it.

I will consider it not a toy once it delivers technology that is from this century.



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vivster said:
caffeinade said:

Looking at the results we can see that both the XxX and Nintendo Switch have managed to penetrate the phone market's dominance.
On the XxX side, this may potentially lead to more of these mid-gen upgrades.
Hopefully the Switch's success will prompt Nintendo to avoid the plastic toy design philosophy in the future.

Why would they if the Switch is selling that well? Unless you think the Switch isn't a plastic toy more than an actual piece of technology, which I would disagree with.

Clearly talking about the WiiU.

I should have given that section a second pass, before submitting.



vivster said:

It feels like a toy and misses many essential features that we have come accustomed to in actual tech gadgets. It is a toy that has one specific purpose. It would be an insult to compare it with something as technologically advanced as a smartphone. Though a lot of it doesn't have to do with the technology that is inside it and rather what the platform holder is doing, or not doing, with it. I mean it's a pretty bold move to have a bluetooth capable mobile device that does not allow you to couple your bluetooth devices with it.

I will consider it not a toy once it delivers technology that is from this century.

So you're saying it's like a toy because it's essentially like a Fisher Price tablet? One function, locked features, minimal interface, lack of app diversity? I can get behind that definition. It's a pretty fun toy. 



caffeinade said:
vivster said:

Why would they if the Switch is selling that well? Unless you think the Switch isn't a plastic toy more than an actual piece of technology, which I would disagree with.

Clearly talking about the WiiU.

I should have given that section a second pass, before submitting.

But do you really think there is much of a difference between the Wii U and the Switch other than that they moved the processing power from a stationary device into the gamepad? I don't really see any feature in the Switch more than what the Wii U had. So wouldn't both be toys then?



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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
vivster said:

It feels like a toy and misses many essential features that we have come accustomed to in actual tech gadgets. It is a toy that has one specific purpose. It would be an insult to compare it with something as technologically advanced as a smartphone. Though a lot of it doesn't have to do with the technology that is inside it and rather what the platform holder is doing, or not doing, with it. I mean it's a pretty bold move to have a bluetooth capable mobile device that does not allow you to couple your bluetooth devices with it.

I will consider it not a toy once it delivers technology that is from this century.

So you're saying it's like a toy because it's essentially like a Fisher Price tablet? One function, locked features, minimal interface, lack of app substance? I can get behind that definition. It's a pretty fun toy. 

Yes, pretty much exactly that. It is a fun toy but I'd rather not like to call it a sophisticated piece of tech. And I don't really think Nintendo wants to call it that either. It is what it is and it sells because of what it is.



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vivster said:
caffeinade said:

Clearly talking about the WiiU.

I should have given that section a second pass, before submitting.

But do you really think there is much of a difference between the Wii U and the Switch other than that they moved the processing power from a stationary device into the gamepad? I don't really see any feature in the Switch more than what the Wii U had. So wouldn't both be toys then?

A wrenches don't have much functionality, and they make terrible toys.

Whilst lacking in features and functionality, the things it does do, it more or less does very well.
The Switch:
Boots quickly
Has a fast, clean, modern UI, that seamlessly blends touch and button inputs
Handles updates well
Has a nice, easy way of archiving software

The Switch lacks some very important features; the features it does have, are generally fairly polished.
There is a strong base to add to with the Switch, the WiiU was just awful.

Last edited by caffeinade - on 27 December 2017

vivster said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:

It definitely doesn't look like a cheap piece of plastic. It looks nice and sleek. I know you might just be taking the piss, and even if you're not your opinion is fine. But it feels more like a nice piece of tech, which is how most tech sites are treating it, rather than just a cheap gimmicky toy. 

It feels like a toy and misses many essential features that we have come accustomed to in actual tech gadgets. It is a toy that has one specific purpose. It would be an insult to compare it with something as technologically advanced as a smartphone. Though a lot of it doesn't have to do with the technology that is inside it and rather what the platform holder is doing, or not doing, with it. I mean it's a pretty bold move to have a bluetooth capable mobile device that does not allow you to couple your bluetooth devices with it.

I will consider it not a toy once it delivers technology that is from this century.

Except the tech it has are all from this century. It looks and feels more modern than a Wii U or a 3DS and has been pretty stable outside of a few duds that have been noted online early on in its life, like most consoles. I mean, at least it doesn't break as easily as an early Xbox 360. Different strokes for different folks I guess.



caffeinade said:
vivster said:

But do you really think there is much of a difference between the Wii U and the Switch other than that they moved the processing power from a stationary device into the gamepad? I don't really see any feature in the Switch more than what the Wii U had. So wouldn't both be toys then?

A wrenches don't have much functionality, and they make terrible toys.

Whilst lacking in features and functionality, the things it does do, it more or less does very well.
The Switch:
Boots quickly
Has a fast, clean, modern UI, that seamlessly blends touch and button inputs
Handles updates well
Has a nice, easy way of archiving software

The Switch lacks some very important features; the features it does have, are generally fairly polished.
There is a strong base to add to with the Switch, the WiiU was just awful.

Have you given a wrench to a baby? Makes for an awesome toy.

Switch seems more like a natural evolution that merely kept up with the time than anything that's definitively better. Wii U, at the time it was coming out, also was a comparably good and fast system. Switch is quantitatively better than the Wii U in most aspects, no question, but comparably to all the other tech out there it just feels like a new polish that barely kept up with the time rather than being fundamentally more developed or improved to the previous platform. Then again, I could say the same about the other current gen consoles as well.

Now this discussion feels pointless^^



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vivster said:
caffeinade said:

A wrenches don't have much functionality, and they make terrible toys.

Whilst lacking in features and functionality, the things it does do, it more or less does very well.
The Switch:
Boots quickly
Has a fast, clean, modern UI, that seamlessly blends touch and button inputs
Handles updates well
Has a nice, easy way of archiving software

The Switch lacks some very important features; the features it does have, are generally fairly polished.
There is a strong base to add to with the Switch, the WiiU was just awful.

Have you given a wrench to a baby? Makes for an awesome toy.

Switch seems more like a natural evolution that merely kept up with the time than anything that's definitively better. Wii U, at the time it was coming out, also was a comparably good and fast system. Switch is quantitatively better than the Wii U in most aspects, no question, but comparably to all the other tech out there it just feels like a new polish that barely kept up with the time rather than being fundamentally more developed or improved to the previous platform. Then again, I could say the same about the other current gen consoles as well.

Now this discussion feels pointless^^

I have given my Switch to some children.
You can read how that went here:
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=233833

As for wrenches, I find it to be a bit hard for children to chew.
Sad really: they are hard to break, teeth are not.

The Switch has a more modern architecture than its peers (consoles), but lacks things like a high resolution, glass, OLED display.
It feels like less of a toy when compared to the current consoles, but is a joke when compared to a high end phone.
That is just the console market.



OP used the words penetrate and XxX in the same sentence...just sayin...

Last edited by Shiken - on 27 December 2017

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