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epsilon72 on 10 April 2008
Xeno said:
Username2324 said:
Xeno said:
Well, I don't own an Xbox 360 or a PS3. I'm not a big fan of Windows, either. I'm not speaking as a fanboy but as a potential investor. Honestly, would you bank on Blue Ray as being a profit-generating source for Sony? Do you think Blue Ray will be able to compete against DVD, or will it go the way of Super Audio, Mini Disc, and Beta? Will streaming video make high definition null and void? Even if Sony is able to stream movies via Netflix, Sony was banking on Blue Ray as a major selling point for its PS3. If Sony promotes streaming movies, it will shoot itself in the foot.

Since when is Sony promoting streaming? You really don't know anything do you? How is streaming SD video going to make High Definition null and void?

I'm sorry, but you've been put on my top ten dumbest members list.

 


I was actually responding to your post when you said:

"Your such a freaking 360 fanboy, you do realize that Netflix is also playing to use the PS3 right? You also know that Netflix already streams movies to PCs right? You also realize that people want to use their HDTVs correct?"

 

You need to pay attention to what you type. I was saying if Sony is going to have downloading of movies, it would defeat the purpose of a Blue Ray player.

No it wouldn't, because:

a)Many consumers (including me) prefer to own physical copies of their movies

b)Downloaded movies will undoubtedly be of lower quality than BR ones 

 



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swyggi on 10 April 2008

My response to the OP:

Movies aren't the only thing you can put on a format you know. Aside of games, you can also put music, large quantities of information for school, software programs for military/health/science uses, basically anything that requires memory usage in the digital world. Blu-Ray will help cut costs from regular DVD discs while able to store more information on each Blu-Ray disc. While it may seem like DVD's are enough for these programs, you're forgetting that the world of technology moves faster than we can anticipate sometimes. More programs require more memory these days.



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Xeno on 10 April 2008
epsilon72 said:
Xeno said:
Username2324 said:
Xeno said:
Well, I don't own an Xbox 360 or a PS3. I'm not a big fan of Windows, either. I'm not speaking as a fanboy but as a potential investor. Honestly, would you bank on Blue Ray as being a profit-generating source for Sony? Do you think Blue Ray will be able to compete against DVD, or will it go the way of Super Audio, Mini Disc, and Beta? Will streaming video make high definition null and void? Even if Sony is able to stream movies via Netflix, Sony was banking on Blue Ray as a major selling point for its PS3. If Sony promotes streaming movies, it will shoot itself in the foot.

Since when is Sony promoting streaming? You really don't know anything do you? How is streaming SD video going to make High Definition null and void?

I'm sorry, but you've been put on my top ten dumbest members list.

 


I was actually responding to your post when you said:

"Your such a freaking 360 fanboy, you do realize that Netflix is also playing to use the PS3 right? You also know that Netflix already streams movies to PCs right? You also realize that people want to use their HDTVs correct?"

 

You need to pay attention to what you type. I was saying if Sony is going to have downloading of movies, it would defeat the purpose of a Blue Ray player.

No it wouldn't, because:

a)Many consumers (including me) prefer to own physical copies of their movies

b)Downloaded movies will undoubtedly be of lower quality than BR ones

 

Why would you want your own copy when you can watch it as many times as you want with a subscription? You'll always have access to it. Eventually, you'll get bored of watching it.

 



sc94597 on 10 April 2008

I don't think it will be as successful as DVD/CD, but it will be more successful than the failures you mentioned.



Xeno on 10 April 2008
swyggi said:
My response to the OP:

Movies aren't the only thing you can put on a format you know. Aside of games, you can also put music, large quantities of information for school, software programs for military/health/science uses, basically anything that requires memory usage in the digital world. Blu-Ray will help cut costs from regular DVD discs while able to store more information on each Blu-Ray disc. While it may seem like DVD's are enough for these programs, you're forgetting that the world of technology moves faster than we can anticipate sometimes. More programs require more memory these days.

 I saw a Blu-Ray disk selling for 18 dollars today. I bought 100 DVDs for 30 dollars. If you store a lot of information on one disk, it becomes a liabiltiy. That is why they got rid of $1000 and $10,000 bills. Losing one of those bills would piss you off. Anyway, I hear that holographic discs are around the corner. They're supposed to store a ridiculous amount of data.



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Username2324 on 10 April 2008
Xeno said:
Username2324 said:
Xeno said:
Well, I don't own an Xbox 360 or a PS3. I'm not a big fan of Windows, either. I'm not speaking as a fanboy but as a potential investor. Honestly, would you bank on Blue Ray as being a profit-generating source for Sony? Do you think Blue Ray will be able to compete against DVD, or will it go the way of Super Audio, Mini Disc, and Beta? Will streaming video make high definition null and void? Even if Sony is able to stream movies via Netflix, Sony was banking on Blue Ray as a major selling point for its PS3. If Sony promotes streaming movies, it will shoot itself in the foot.

Since when is Sony promoting streaming? You really don't know anything do you? How is streaming SD video going to make High Definition null and void?

I'm sorry, but you've been put on my top ten dumbest members list.

 


I was actually responding to your post when you said:

"Your such a freaking 360 fanboy, you do realize that Netflix is also playing to use the PS3 right? You also know that Netflix already streams movies to PCs right? You also realize that people want to use their HDTVs correct?"

 

You need to pay attention to what you type. I was saying if Sony is going to have downloading of movies, it would defeat the purpose of a Blue Ray player.

Netflix doesnt do HD movie streaming currently, the streaming they do is less than DVD quality, and even worse than that if you have a slow connection.

Again, if you don't know anything about it, dont talk about it.

 



Xeno on 10 April 2008
Username2324 said:
Xeno said:
Username2324 said:
Xeno said:
Well, I don't own an Xbox 360 or a PS3. I'm not a big fan of Windows, either. I'm not speaking as a fanboy but as a potential investor. Honestly, would you bank on Blue Ray as being a profit-generating source for Sony? Do you think Blue Ray will be able to compete against DVD, or will it go the way of Super Audio, Mini Disc, and Beta? Will streaming video make high definition null and void? Even if Sony is able to stream movies via Netflix, Sony was banking on Blue Ray as a major selling point for its PS3. If Sony promotes streaming movies, it will shoot itself in the foot.

Since when is Sony promoting streaming? You really don't know anything do you? How is streaming SD video going to make High Definition null and void?

I'm sorry, but you've been put on my top ten dumbest members list.

 


I was actually responding to your post when you said:

"Your such a freaking 360 fanboy, you do realize that Netflix is also playing to use the PS3 right? You also know that Netflix already streams movies to PCs right? You also realize that people want to use their HDTVs correct?"

 

You need to pay attention to what you type. I was saying if Sony is going to have downloading of movies, it would defeat the purpose of a Blue Ray player.

Netflix doesnt do HD movie streaming currently, the streaming they do is less than DVD quality, and even worse than that if you have a slow connection.

Again, if you don't know anything about it, dont talk about it.

 

Before you post again, you should read my original post. I made the case that, for the most part, only sports really benifit from HD technology. High definition does nothing else to improve a movie that DVD hasn't already done. It won't make the movie more exciting. If anything, it will make it more obvious that all the CG effects are just computerized.

 



Username2324 on 10 April 2008

If you had read my posts, you'd have answered my question. Have you ever watched a movie in full 1080p with TrueHD surround sound? My guess is no, if you had you'd realize how much more exciting and enjoyable movies can be.

Fast-paced movies will blow you away like DVD never could, the music in romances will touch your heart. The visuals of animated films will stun you. The details will amaze you.

Like I have said MANY times now, if you don't know about it or have never experienced it DO NOT TALK TRASH ABOUT IT!



makingmusic476 on 10 April 2008
epsilon72 said:
Xeno said:
Username2324 said:
Xeno said:
Well, I don't own an Xbox 360 or a PS3. I'm not a big fan of Windows, either. I'm not speaking as a fanboy but as a potential investor. Honestly, would you bank on Blue Ray as being a profit-generating source for Sony? Do you think Blue Ray will be able to compete against DVD, or will it go the way of Super Audio, Mini Disc, and Beta? Will streaming video make high definition null and void? Even if Sony is able to stream movies via Netflix, Sony was banking on Blue Ray as a major selling point for its PS3. If Sony promotes streaming movies, it will shoot itself in the foot.

Since when is Sony promoting streaming? You really don't know anything do you? How is streaming SD video going to make High Definition null and void?

I'm sorry, but you've been put on my top ten dumbest members list.

 


I was actually responding to your post when you said:

"Your such a freaking 360 fanboy, you do realize that Netflix is also playing to use the PS3 right? You also know that Netflix already streams movies to PCs right? You also realize that people want to use their HDTVs correct?"

 

You need to pay attention to what you type. I was saying if Sony is going to have downloading of movies, it would defeat the purpose of a Blue Ray player.

No it wouldn't, because:

a)Many consumers (including me) prefer to own physical copies of their movies

b)Downloaded movies will undoubtedly be of lower quality than BR ones

 


 Exactly.  CD sales are still going strong for a reason.



Xeno on 10 April 2008
Username2324 said:
If you had read my posts, you'd have answered my question. Have you ever watched a movie in full 1080p with TrueHD surround sound? My guess is no, if you had you'd realize how much more exciting and enjoyable movies can be.

Fast-paced movies will blow you away like DVD never could, the music in romances will touch your heart. The visuals of animated films will stun you. The details will amaze you.

Like I have said MANY times now, if you don't know about it or have never experienced it DO NOT TALK TRASH ABOUT IT!


Damn, I'm reduced to quoting myself. If you look up, you'll read this post:

"I have a few friends who have adopted an HD television (720p). It looks nice, but it isn't as significant an improvement as VHS to DVD was. Being a digital satellite subscriber -- as well as an owner of an analogue antenna (for some local channels) -- I can notice a nice improvement of digital over analogue. I think my TV has 540 lines of resolution (enhanced definition), and -- to tell you the truth --720p is not that much nicer. If you go to your local Best Buy or Circuit City, they tend to have rooms where you can sit down for as long as you want and watch a movie in 1080p with a state-of-the-art audio system. Again, it's enjoyable, but I just don't see it as enough reason to replace my DVD player (which plays DIVX, MP4, and many other formats) with a Blue Ray player. I have an Avel DVD player, and I can actually stream movies from computer to my TV, via the DVD player. The quality is great."

 

So, yes, I've seen HD (both 720p and 1080p). It's not as life-changing as you make it.