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Insidb said:
zorg1000 said:

Regardless if they slowed down recently, they still have announced about 3/4 of their victories. It doesnt matter how many ways you slice that, its not "hardly ever". You were wrong, get over it.

And by the way, they have lost close to half of the last 18 months so obviously they had to slow down their winning speech.

You're contradicting yourself, in attempt to save face. Why? Because you want to prop up a narrative you've personally invested in: always a bad move.

1) We're talking about what they are DOING, not what they've DONE. If you're going to try to take them responding EVERY MONTH FOR TWO YEARS and then try to conflate that with them responding LESS THAN EVERY SIX MONTHS FOR NEARLY TWO YEARS, you're being extremely biased.

2) So they lost about half the months, huh? Yet they're always so eager to announce victories? But they weren't losing, until Switch launched in March...but they scaled WAY back nearly a year before that? So your points are inherently contradictory? Yes, they are.

Nothing i said is a contradiction and the only one trying to save face is you. Im sorry that you cant admit when your wrong but thats not my problem.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

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cmay227 said:
Insidb said:

Did you miss the responses that pointed out how dumb his link vomit post was?

Sony hasn't done THREE PR releases like this...IN A YEAR-AND-A-HALF!

That's according the "proof" for his own dumb argument.

You know what's happened in that "short" span of time?

The PS4 Pro, the NSW, the X1X, and the Orange Potato in the White House!

Hardly ever definition.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hardly%20ever

If we count 2013. 48 months total since PS4 was released. 29 out of 48 months They made statements about  being #1 in US or combo Global #1. Google is your friend.

I already ripped this argument apart, unfortunately. For reference, the question regarded, explicitly, what Sony "does," not what they "did."

For the first 29 months, they posted at a 100% rate. For the last 19, they posted at a 16% rate. That's an 84% drop-off, for nearly 2 years or the last 40% of the console's lifespan.

In essence, for nearly the second half of the console's lifespan, the span that is CURRENT, they...wait for it...HARDLY EVER post about winning. 

Scrolling through the posts is fundamental. Logic is your friend. Selection bias is your enemy. 



cmay227 said:
Insidb said:

Did you miss the responses that pointed out how dumb his link vomit post was?

Sony hasn't done THREE PR releases like this...IN A YEAR-AND-A-HALF!

That's according the "proof" for his own dumb argument.

You know what's happened in that "short" span of time?

The PS4 Pro, the NSW, the X1X, and the Orange Potato in the White House!

Hardly ever definition.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hardly%20ever

If we count 2013. 48 months total since PS4 was released. 29 out of 48 months They made statements about  being #1 in US or combo Global #1. Google is your friend. Sounds like someone needs a hug.

Sony announced a win in 29 out of 48 months, or 19 times they didnt announce a win.

Off the top of my head i can think of 7 XBO victories, 2 for 3DS and 6 for Switch. Thats a total of 15.

So that means Sony hasnt announced a win only 4/29 times? Hardly ever.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

zorg1000 said:
Insidb said:

You're contradicting yourself, in attempt to save face. Why? Because you want to prop up a narrative you've personally invested in: always a bad move.

1) We're talking about what they are DOING, not what they've DONE. If you're going to try to take them responding EVERY MONTH FOR TWO YEARS and then try to conflate that with them responding LESS THAN EVERY SIX MONTHS FOR NEARLY TWO YEARS, you're being extremely biased.

2) So they lost about half the months, huh? Yet they're always so eager to announce victories? But they weren't losing, until Switch launched in March...but they scaled WAY back nearly a year before that? So your points are inherently contradictory? Yes, they are.

Nothing i said is a contradiction and the only one trying to save face is you. Im sorry that you cant admit when your wrong but thats not my problem.

Solid deflection, devoid of any factual responses to my fact-based rebuttal.

My work here is done.

/wave



zorg1000 said:
cmay227 said:

Hardly ever definition.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hardly%20ever

If we count 2013. 48 months total since PS4 was released. 29 out of 48 months They made statements about  being #1 in US or combo Global #1. Google is your friend. Sounds like someone needs a hug.

Sony announced a win in 29 out of 48 months, or 19 times they didnt announce a win.

Off the top of my head i can think of 7 XBO victories, 2 for 3DS and 6 for Switch. Thats a total of 15.

So that means Sony hasnt announced a win only 4/29 times? Hardly ever.

Dude, seriously: he literally linked announcements by Sony, IN MONTHS WHEN THEY LOST.



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Insidb said:
cmay227 said:

Hardly ever definition.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hardly%20ever

If we count 2013. 48 months total since PS4 was released. 29 out of 48 months They made statements about  being #1 in US or combo Global #1. Google is your friend.

I already ripped this argument apart, unfortunately. For reference, the question regarded, explicitly, what Sony "does," not what they "did."

For the first 29 months, they posted at a 100% rate. For the last 19, they posted at a 16% rate. That's an 84% drop-off, for nearly 2 years or the last 40% of the console's lifespan.

In essence, for nearly the second half of the console's lifespan, the span that is CURRENT, they...wait for it...HARDLY EVER post about winning. 

Scrolling through the posts is fundamental. Logic is your friend. Selection bias is your enemy. 

You cant announce a win if you lost so its not 16%.

You are picking an arbitrary start point for what is considered "does" and "did" and you know it.

Its funny that you are calling people out for selection bias when that is 100% what you are doing.

"19 months ago is does but 48 months ago is did."



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

Insidb said:
zorg1000 said:

Nothing i said is a contradiction and the only one trying to save face is you. Im sorry that you cant admit when your wrong but thats not my problem.

Solid deflection, devoid of any factual responses to my fact-based rebuttal.

My work here is done.

/wave

But you didnt provide a fact based rebuttal.....you just rambled on using arbitray start points.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

zorg1000 said:
Insidb said:

I already ripped this argument apart, unfortunately. For reference, the question regarded, explicitly, what Sony "does," not what they "did."

For the first 29 months, they posted at a 100% rate. For the last 19, they posted at a 16% rate. That's an 84% drop-off, for nearly 2 years or the last 40% of the console's lifespan.

In essence, for nearly the second half of the console's lifespan, the span that is CURRENT, they...wait for it...HARDLY EVER post about winning. 

Scrolling through the posts is fundamental. Logic is your friend. Selection bias is your enemy. 

You cant announce a win if you lost so its not 16%.

You are picking an arbitrary start point for what is considered "does" and "did" and you know it.

Its funny that you are calling people out for selection bias when that is 100% what you are doing.

"19 months ago is does but 48 months ago is did."

I've got an idea, since context is irrelevant: drive your car towards a brick wall at 100mph for 900 feet, then slow down to 16mph for the last 5 feet.

After you're done, tell me how it went and how irrelevant Sony doing something 86% less for the last 40% of the PS4's existence is.



Bandorr said:
This thread has taken a very awkward turn.

All these comments have nothing to do with sales.

Because a couple people decided to make it about console warz and dig themselves holes with a bunch of links.



Insidb said:
cmay227 said:

 

https://venturebeat.com/2014/02/13/january-2014-npd-playstation-4-extends-its-lead/

“Demand for PlayStation 4 remains incredibly strong as it was No. 1 in sales for next-gen consoles in January, nearly doubling the nearest next-gen competitor, and remains the cumulative leader, according to today’s NPD report,” Sony spokesperson Guy Longworth said

https://venturebeat.com/2015/03/12/february-2014-npd-ps4-3ds/

Sony spokesperson said in a statement. “PS4 remains the cumulative leader in hardware sales with more than 20.2 million units sold to consumers worldwide demonstrating the fastest growth in PlayStation hardware history.”

https://venturebeat.com/2014/04/17/march-2014-npd-playstation-4-outsells-xbox-one-again-despite-titanfall/

” PlayStation brand-marketing boss Guy Longworth said. “NPD also highlighted that PlayStation sold the most total consoles and demand for Infamous: Second Son was extremely strong.”

http://www.dailytech.com/NPD+Nintendo+3DS+Outsells+Xbox+One+in+May+Sony+PS4+Beats+Both/article36064.htm

Sony released a cheery statement on the NPD numbers.  Senior Vice President of PlayStation Brand Marketing Guy Longworth commented:

PlayStation continues to be the best place to play for innovative IP, as PS4 was the preferred platform for May’s biggest releases, including Watch Dogs and Wolfenstein: The New Order, and held four of the top five spots for next gen software sales. PS4 is the leading next-gen platform for sports, highlighted in May by the best-selling sports game, MLB 14: The Show.

http://time.com/3004621/playstation-xbox-mario-kart-wii/

As usual, we don’t have unit sales specifics, but Sony claimed victory for next-gen software sales in an email, writing that the PS4 “[led] two of the top three titles” (Watch Dogs, FIFA 14) and was first in unit sales “for the sixth consecutive month.”

https://venturebeat.com/2014/08/14/july-2014-npd-ps4-xbox-one-have-another-huge-month/

Sony confirmed that the PlayStation 4 was once again the top-selling console for the seventh month in a row. The company confirmed earlier this week that it has sold more than 10 million PS4s worldwide, but Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft have all declined to share specific sales numbers for July.

https://venturebeat.com/2014/09/11/august-2014-npd-madden-sells-better-on-ps4-than-xbox-one/

“PlayStation 4 was No. 1 in hardware sales for the eighth consecutive month,” PlayStation senior vice president of marketing Guy Longworth said. “And it remains the cumulative leader for new-generation game consoles.”

https://venturebeat.com/2014/10/16/september-2014-npd-ps4-outsells-xbox-one-despite-microsoft-giving-away-a-free-game/

“Thanks to the support from fans and the overwhelming popularity of the limited-edition Destiny PS4 bundle, PlayStation 4 won the month of September, with PS4 nearly tripling its August sales,” said Longworth.

https://venturebeat.com/2014/11/13/october-2014-npd-the-evil-within-sets-records-ps4-xbox-one-still-selling-strong/

Sony confirmed that the PS4 outsold the other consoles again, though NPD, Sony, and Microsoft didn’t give actual numbers on systems sold.

 

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https://segmentnext.com/2015/02/13/january-2015-npd-ps4-dying-light-top-best-sellers/

Sony Computer Entertainment of America confirmed their number one spot while revealing that by January’s end a total of 18.5 million PlayStation 4 consoles have been sold:

PlayStation 4 was the top-selling console in January and remains the cumulative leader in the U.S. according to NPD data. Since launch in November 2013, 18.5 million PS4 units and 81.8 million software units have been sold through to consumers worldwide.

https://venturebeat.com/2015/03/12/february-2014-npd-ps4-3ds/

“Demand for PlayStation 4 remains incredibly strong in the U.S. as it was No. 1 in hardware-and-software sales in February, according to the latest NPD report,” a Sony spokesperson said in a statement. “PS4 remains the cumulative leader in hardware sales with more than 20.2 million units sold to consumers worldwide demonstrating the fastest growth in PlayStation hardware history.”

https://venturebeat.com/2015/04/16/march-2015-npd-ps4-xbox-one/

“We are truly honored PlayStation 4 is the top-selling console and No. 1 in software sales again according to NPD sales data for March 2015,” a spokesperson for Sony Computer Entertainment told GamesBeat in a statement. “PS4 remains the cumulative sales leader both globally and in the United States and we want to thank gamers worldwide for their ongoing support.”

https://venturebeat.com/2015/05/14/april-2015-npd/

Sony told us in its own statement that the PS4 remains the “cumulative leader” in terms of sales in the U.S.

https://venturebeat.com/2015/06/11/may-2015-npd-ps4-tops-console-sales-as-the-witcher-iii-has-strong-debut/

The PlayStation 4 was the top-selling console in May. Sony shared the following statement with GamesBeat:

“As we head into E3, we would like to thank gamers for making PS4 the top-selling console and the leader in software sales in the U.S. in May,” a Sony spokesperson said.

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2015/07/16/june-2015-npd-ps4-leads-console-sales-thanks-overwhelming-popularity-batman-bundle-sony-says/

We’ll have to wait a little bit longer for the full June 2015 NPD report, but Sony was able to confirm that the PlayStation 4 was the #1 selling console in the United States for the month, while also leading in software sales.

Calling out the Batman: Arkham Knight PS4 bundle and its “overwhelming popularity” as a major reason for the PS4’s success last month, a Sony rep said:

PS4 continues to lead console sales in the U.S. and globally and we would like to thank gamers worldwide for their continued dedication to the PlayStation platform.

https://gematsu.com/2015/08/july-2015-npd-ps4-leads-wii-u-software-sales-up

“We are truly humbled by the success of the PS4, and we would like to thank gamers for making it the top selling console and No. 1 in software sales in the United States in July,” a Sony spokesperson said in a statement provided to VentureBeat.

Read more at https://gematsu.com/2015/08/july-2015-npd-ps4-leads-wii-u-software-sales-up#z1vBI6jLFzJiq0Fr.99

https://venturebeat.com/2015/09/10/august-2015-npd-ps4-madden/

Sony has confirmed that the PlayStation 4 outsold its competition once again.

“We would like to thank our fans and partners for their ongoing support of PlayStation and for making PS4 the top selling console and No. 1 in software sales in North America in August,” a Sony spokesperson said in a statement provided to GamesBeat.

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2015/10/19/september-2015-npd-ps4-1-selling-console-tops-software-sales-well/

In a statement from Sony Computer Entertainment America today, they have revealed that the PS4 was not only #1 in hardware sales, but software sales as well:

As we kick off the holiday season, we would like to take a moment to thank fans for making PlayStation 4 the best-selling console and #1 in software sales in September. PlayStation 4 was the number one console for NBA 2K16, Madden NFL 16, Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain and FIFA 16. Including the highly successful limited edition console bundle, PS4 also led retail sales for Destiny: The Taken King.

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2015/11/13/october-2015-npd-xbox-one-won-month-despite-ps4-price-drop/

Sony also issued a statement after the NPD report, saying they are “truly humbled by the success of the PlayStation 4,” and thanked fans “for making PlayStation 4 the top selling console globally.”

https://gamerant.com/console-sales-november-2015-ps4-xbox-one/

Sony marketing boss Eric Lempel made the official announcement to GamesBeat, referencing the sales report from market research firm NPD Group:

“PlayStation 4 is the top-selling console in the United States during the month of November, according to NPD. We have hit several key milestones over the last few weeks. Prior to Black Friday, we announced we have sold through more than 30.2 million PS4s to consumers around the world and that PS4 continues to exhibit the fastest growth in PlayStation hardware history. In addition, Black Friday sales were the strongest in PlayStation history demonstrating more people game now than ever before.”

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2016/01/14/sony-ps4-vs-xbox-one-was-1-in-us-console-sales-for-december-2015-all-of-2015/

As we reflect on an amazing year, we want to thank fans and partners for making PlayStation 4 the top selling console in December and in 2015. PS4 also had the strongest third-party software sales in 2015 in the U.S., according to NPD.

The momentum and enthusiasm for the platform continued throughout the year, resulting in cumulative sales of more than 35.9 million since the launch of PS4. During the holiday season alone, more than 5.7 million PS4s and 35 million PS4 games were sold through to consumers worldwide. We look forward to another great year and bringing an extensive portfolio of games from our publisher partners and SCE Worldwide Studios to fans in 2016.

https://venturebeat.com/2016/02/11/january-2016-npd-xbox-one-ps4/

The PlayStation 4 outsold the Xbox One and Wii U in January, according to Sony.

“Thanks to our fans and partners for making PlayStation 4 the top-selling platform and software sales leader in January, according to NPD,” a Sony spokesperson said in a statement provided to GamesBeat. “PS4 also saw impressive year-over-year growth in both hardware and software sales. We appreciate the support and will continue to deliver on our promise to bring the best entertainment experiences to gamers.”

https://venturebeat.com/2016/03/10/february-2016-npd/

Here’s Sony’s statement: 

“We would like to thank our fans and partners for making PlayStation 4 the top-selling hardware platform and the software sales leader in February, according to NPD. We continued to see strong year-over-year sales growth for PS4 hardware and software and are truly humbled by the support and enthusiasm from gamers.”

https://venturebeat.com/2016/04/14/march-2016-npd-division-zelda/

“Thank you to our fans and partners for making PlayStation 4 the top-selling console and software sales leader for the month of March, as well as the number-one console for fans of The Division, according to NPD. We are truly humbled by the success and look forward to delivering more amazing gaming experiences throughout 2016, including the launch of PlayStation VR this October.”

https://venturebeat.com/2016/07/21/june-2016-npd-overwatch-still-no-1-during-summer-drought/

The PlayStation 4 was the top-selling console of June, according to Sony. The company has come in at No. 1 every month since October 2015.

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2016/12/09/november-2016-npd-ps4-outsells-xbox-one-first-time-since-june/

A Sony spokesperson confirmed the news with GameSpot, but they didn’t offer up a comment or give out exact sales numbers. However, Sony did confirm earlier this week that worldwide PS4 sales are now over 50 million, thanks to PS4 Pro and the biggest Black Friday week in PlayStation history.

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2017/02/10/january-2017-npd-ps4-beats-xbox-one-had-its-best-january-ever/

Sony has revealed that PlayStation 4 was the #1 selling system of January 2017 in the United States, beating Xbox One for a third straight month, according to data from the NPD.

In a statement to GameSpot, Sony added that four of the five best-selling games during the month were for PS4. The NPD should reveal the top 10 titles of January next week, where Resident Evil 7 is likely to finish near the top.

Sony seems to have gone quiet once Nintendo started kicking its ass this year, But then again Sony never talks about being #1. Only did the PS4 starting in Jan 2014

Exactly, 3 times in the last 18 months.

To Be fair, they have lost 10 npd's in 18 months, six to Nintendo and four to Xbox. It makes the number 3/8 from the times they have won.



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