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Fact is, Antifa's antics is creating this situation because they attack people that have different points of views. They call anybody a nazi that doesn't fall into their line of thinking. If you want neo-nazis, let antifa keep radicalizing people with violence.



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Donutsticks said:
Fact is, Antifa's antics is creating this situation because they attack people that have different points of views. They call anybody a nazi that doesn't fall into their line of thinking. If you want neo-nazis, let antifa keep radicalizing people with violence.

Are you blaming antifa for that guy running over people with his car and killing a woman in the process?

Lets do a quick fact check:

Number of deaths caused by antifa members since 2015: 0

Number of deaths caused by right wingers since 2015: 16

2017: 1 dead after an alt-right member drives his car into a crowd of counter protesters.

2017: 2 dead after an alt-right member stabs two liberal men in a Portland train stabbing attack.

2017: 1 Indian man killed and 2 wounded after shot at a bar in Olathe Kansas for not speaking English.

2015: 9 black church members in Charleston, SC killed by nazi Dylan Roof, simply for their skin color.

2015: 3 people shot at Planned Parenthood in Colorado Springs, alt right member screamed "this is for the babies" before the attack.



CGI-Quality said:
Superman4 said:

What bullshit is that? College grants and loans that white people arent entitled to? Affirmitive action laws that require employers to hire them regardless of ability? Housing loans and programs only for "minorities" that white people cannot participate in? The ability to be blatently racist and have racist TV programs, movies etc. without being called racist? BET and White girls whould be a good example of both. 

 

That "Bullshit" you speak of is driven in large part to how they portray themselves in the media. They want to be seen as gangsters and thugs but dont understand why they get treated as such.

Because I see things are going South, and some moderations are most likely on the way, I'm going to take a crack at this and offer some benefit of the doubt, first.

Explain these programs you speak of...

Highlighted in bold how cute, your species is adorable... I am sure you have heard of the internet. Humans invented it way way back; it helps the species gain quick access to information that is not innate.

Like a book but it's electronic.

You must know how to operate the standar issue web browser seeing as how you are a moderator on this site...

 

So I implore you to copy the following link into the address bar:

https://www.google.com/search?&q=Affirmative+action&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiFvcjH2dvVAhXLhFQKHSUfCu8Q7xYIISgA&biw=360&bih=612&dpr=4

The link if you do not wish to follow it lead here. . . .

Affirmative action as defined by Google:

"an action or policy favoring those who tend to suffer from discrimination, especially in relation to employment or education; positive discrimination"

Now I cannot speak for you but based on the very definition of "Racism" this looks very racist to me...

HUD (Housing and Urban Development) favors the sickly, old and dark skinned Americans (a few illegals slip in there too).

Filling out a student loan application, in more cases these days applying for an appartment or indeed filling your taxes all have race specific benefits and clauses... Well unless you're a single white male, then you're screwed in all the wrong ways! WIC for example... Women Infants and Childeren...

Don't believe me? Again, It's called the internet.

https://www.fns.usda.gov/wic/women-infants-and-children-wic

Google: "native american student loan forgiveness"

https://www.studentdebtrelief.us/knowledge-base/grants-internships-scholarships-native-americans/

Google: "African American student loan forgiveness"

A top link:

https://www.studentdebtrelief.us/knowledge-base/grants-internships-scholarships-native-americans/

Now Try Googling "white student loan forgiveness" or "[insert race] student loan forgiveness"

Thankfully stuff pops up for whitey too, but there are no specific benefits.

This showed up after Google searching for "irish american scholarships"

https://www.scholarships.com/financial-aid/college-scholarships/scholarships-by-type/ethnicity-scholarships/

A fairly large snippet from the first paragraph of their "Ethnicity Scholarships" page's:

"Criteria for ethnic-based scholarships varies - while some may require you to have been born in another country, others may only require you to have a mom or dad of that heritage. Don't forget that ethnicity may not be the only criteria required for winning a scholarship - you may need to have a certain GPA or set of extracurricular or community involvement. Your family heritage is valuable and having an ethnic background can help you earn more money towards your college education."

Remember by some they mean many... And having an ethnic background (something you do not choose and has absolutely no effect on you if you were born and raised in America) is enough to get you money for an education... Is this not racism? I mean sure this includes people of all races but more often than not minorities get easier access to these kinds of benefits, they get more comprehensive coverage when because insurers are forced to care about them at the expense of others...

 

Ethnic Origin and/or Race≠Financial Wealth

 

But it's not like state aide or ACA give special benefits to non-whites.

 

Oh wait, they do as well. If you're a Native American (as in indigenous) you're already a higher priority than most. If you are a single mother on top of that? Welcome to top priority single Native American mommy, Uncle Sam will take care of you and your baby now!

 

There is indeed systemic racism; it isn't meant to be against anyone. Regardless of the root intention, at the scale of a nation, race specific benefits come at the expense of others.

 

There is no systemic racism against anyone in America, favoritism is a better word to describe what's going on here on a federal level. In public circles celebrities (which are public figures) believe in this "Systemic racism against minorities AKA: 'black & brown people'". The messages of celebrities have successfully brainwashed the lazy-minded masses, including you it would seem.

 

Moderated ~ CGI



Chris Hu said:

ATIFA never killed anyone on the other hand the KKK, the Nazi's, Neo Nazis and other right wing hate group have killed millions throughout history.  Lychings of minorieties used to be a everyday occurance in the US less then 100 years ago and most of them where either directly done or involved the KKK.

So violence is acceptable as long as it doesn't meet the threshold of killing someone?



Chris Hu said:
Slimebeast said:

Yeah, Antifa never killed anyone. Communists in the 20th century only executed 80 million people "for the greater good".

Being anti facist doesn't mean you are a communinst there are plenty of people that are anti facist that aren't communist.  Your comment is pointless not that I expected anything better anyway.

Only modern day Nazis see resistance to their ways as communist. Since they sulk at Russia bringing down Germany in WWII. Therefore, everyone who's in the way of the rise of the new Reich is a commie.



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Soundwave said:
Slimebeast said:

Yeah, of course Soundwave is coming to spin a careless comment.

You should give credit to me for my honesty if anything.

But to clarify, the right wingers didn't attack defenseless innocent migrants, they attacked migrant thugs and criminals who sell drugs and harrass pedestrians at the city centre of Stockholm. And the violence was relatively mild, throwing a punch or two at most.

Hate is probably a too strong of a word. Angry is more relevant. I feel very angry towards the masses of migrants who behave badly, and angry towards all the inhumane traitors who support them.

Maybe you shouldn't be so "careless" about the shit you type? 

Maybe you should expand your brain to try and look at people as individuals, but it doesn't seem likely in your case, you seem rather unable to process at that level. You're mad at people for existing and wanting a life style similar to your own and no one's stopping you from enjoying "European heritage" (whatever the fuck that is in 2017 with the internet, iPhone, video game consoles, mass transit, airplanes, microwaves McDonalds, brand clothing, living a life style that people 200 years ago of virtually any culture wouldn't recoginize to begin with).

 

like how you do with trump supporters/half of the country? lol



RJ_Sizzle said:
Chris Hu said:

Being anti facist doesn't mean you are a communinst there are plenty of people that are anti facist that aren't communist.  Your comment is pointless not that I expected anything better anyway.

Only modern day Nazis see resistance to their ways as communist. Since they sulk at Russia bringing down Germany in WWII. Therefore, everyone who's in the way of the rise of the new Reich is a commie.

people aren't labelling people as communist simply because of disagreement

people are labelling people who call themselves communist waving symbols from the soviet union as communists

 

 

and also because of their stated goals to put a one class system into place for example. 

 

you understand that there is a difference right?

 

and i just can't express how stupid it is to label nazism as oppressive while supporting communism/soviet union



o_O.Q said:
RJ_Sizzle said:

Only modern day Nazis see resistance to their ways as communist. Since they sulk at Russia bringing down Germany in WWII. Therefore, everyone who's in the way of the rise of the new Reich is a commie.

people aren't labelling people as communist simply because of disagreement

people are labelling people who call themselves communist waving symbols from the soviet union as communists

 

 

you understand that there is a difference right?

 

and i just can't express how stupid it is to label nazism as oppressive while supporting communism/soviet union

The point is, not everyone that's against Nazi/KKK rallies is Antifa/commie. The US fought the Nazis in WWII, did that make us commie? The good ol' boys from the South and the Nazi branded goons of today are united in a belief of an ethnocentric state in a land that didn't contain whites, and is wholly founded by immigrants. Now, they want to yank the rug underneath everyone. I'm just saying, these are groups with storied histories of violence who can't wait to use it again. Should they be surprised that people are acting this way toward them?



RJ_Sizzle said:
o_O.Q said:

people aren't labelling people as communist simply because of disagreement

people are labelling people who call themselves communist waving symbols from the soviet union as communists

 

 

you understand that there is a difference right?

 

and i just can't express how stupid it is to label nazism as oppressive while supporting communism/soviet union

The point is, not everyone that's against Nazi/KKK rallies is Antifa/commie. The US fought the Nazis in WWII, did that make us commie? The good ol' boys from the South and the Nazi branded goons of today are united in a belief of an ethnocentric state in a land that didn't contain whites, and is wholly founded by immigrants. Now, they want to yank the rug underneath everyone. I'm just saying, these are groups with storied histories of violence who can't wait to use it again. Should they be surprised that people are acting this way toward them?

 

"The point is, not everyone that's against Nazi/KKK rallies is Antifa/commie."

 

first off was it a nazi/kkk rally? as far as i know it was a protest to the removal of a statue... so aren't you doing the same by painting everyone who protested against the statue's removal a nazi?

 

secondly i didn't say anything like that, what i said is that people are being labelled as communist because there clearly is a prominent communist agenda being pushed... but i didn't say that this means that all people opposing nazism are communist, that would be silly

 

 

the other problem as is clearly illustrated here is people swarming like herds of mindless locusts labelling and attacking people as nazis when that isn't really the case

there needs to be more rational discourse between different groups or america is going to be plunged into chaos

 

"Should they be surprised that people are acting this way toward them?"

 

well i'm totally for opposing them but not so another system/ideology that is just as bad or worse can be put into place... which is my problem



Holy shit, almost 600 posts. I wish there were other threads that could drive the same volume of discussion that this one has.