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Guitar hero has minimal effect on finger dexterity untill you play the last couple of songs on expert. Man, after hanger 18 my fingers were sore! But even then, there's no lasting effect imo, there's not enough resistence for the finger to act agaisnt.

I don't play drums or have rock band but i imagine the drums would have a greater effect especially on expert where your hitting the notes pretty much note for note.




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you cant learn guitar from Gh / rb but you can learn to play gh from guitar - my brother never ever plays computer games and round my house once when we ended up getting gh out.

He jumped straight into it and after 4 - 5 songs he was scoring 80 - 90% constantly on expert and he just knew the finger up and pull off technique without tutorials or anything, i've been playing for about 3 months now and i'm nowhere near that level.

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Drums are awesome. Vocals are pretty good and do teach you a little bit about pitch. Guitar only helps with finger dexterity and following fast-falling notes (helps for DDR, heh). I agree with everyone who basically said this.



I do think that playing guitar on guitar hero helps you with real guitar. In fact, i am the living proof.

Guitar hero helped me improved my hammer-ons and pull offs and do it with great speed. Once you learn it in the game it's easy to translate to the guitar.

And it gives you a good sense of scale.

It didn't do nothing to my right hand though, as i still fail hard at alternate picking in real guitar. Sometimes i think about trying to play guitar hero using my pick to see if it's a even better practice, but i still have to try this...




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Playing with a guitar controller using a pick has virtually no merit. The feedback between a pick and a plastic strum bar vs. steel strings is entirely different.

The controller strum bar is closer to playing slap bass in that you're alternating between hitting with the thumb and up with the middle or index finger. And even the bass string comparison is pretty poor considering the feel of heavy gauge bass strings is nothing like the loose controller strum bar.

Picking is all about precision in strumming one to any number of strings and those strings only. With only one strum bar, the only thing you're learning technique wise is use of up and down strums for fast riffs.

On the fret hand, other than the obvious difference of essentially playing on one "string" with five frets, I could see a real guitar player changing fingering positions on each button to simulate position of an actual string on a real guitar, but no one plays only the first five frets of a guitar, so... I'll say it's a good tool for learning hammer ons, pulls offs and to a lesser extent, tapping. Beyond that, not so helpful unless it inspires someone who's killed dozens of hours mastering Expert to learn to play a real guitar. And from the sound of it, many have.

If people are actually interested in using a rhythm game to learn how to play the guitar, Guitar Rising should be released later this year, but it looks like it may be PC only. The game is more like a variable setting tutorial that uses REAL GUITARS. Any real electric guitar is the user interface since you're playing for real. I'd like to see the song list, but if it's even half decent and more importantly, provides future additional songs, I'm buying this the day it's available. Total fun way to learn new songs without just downloading Tabs that aren't always accurate and fumbling along.

As for the drums, if I ever manage to get to expert level on RB, I'll BUY a decent drum kit as soon as I'm living in a place sound shielded or isolated enough not to annoy the neighbors.



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I'm not sure about GH/rockband since I've only played GH(demo) w/the 360 controller! I do remember trying out Guitarfreaks (from Konami) awhile back and I did terrible on it! I've been playing guitar on and off since high school(just got back into it recently again actually:) ). It does seem like it might help w/rhythm and actually getting your fingers moving, though.




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greenmedic88 said:
Playing with a guitar controller using a pick has virtually no merit. The feedback between a pick and a plastic strum bar vs. steel strings is entirely different.

The controller strum bar is closer to playing slap bass in that you're alternating between hitting with the thumb and up with the middle or index finger. And even the bass string comparison is pretty poor considering the feel of heavy gauge bass strings is nothing like the loose controller strum bar.

Picking is all about precision in strumming one to any number of strings and those strings only. With only one strum bar, the only thing you're learning technique wise is use of up and down strums for fast riffs.

On the fret hand, other than the obvious difference of essentially playing on one "string" with five frets, I could see a real guitar player changing fingering positions on each button to simulate position of an actual string on a real guitar, but no one plays only the first five frets of a guitar, so... I'll say it's a good tool for learning hammer ons, pulls offs and to a lesser extent, tapping. Beyond that, not so helpful unless it inspires someone who's killed dozens of hours mastering Expert to learn to play a real guitar. And from the sound of it, many have.

If people are actually interested in using a rhythm game to learn how to play the guitar, Guitar Rising should be released later this year, but it looks like it may be PC only. The game is more like a variable setting tutorial that uses REAL GUITARS. Any real electric guitar is the user interface since you're playing for real. I'd like to see the song list, but if it's even half decent and more importantly, provides future additional songs, I'm buying this the day it's available. Total fun way to learn new songs without just downloading Tabs that aren't always accurate and fumbling along.

As for the drums, if I ever manage to get to expert level on RB, I'll BUY a decent drum kit as soon as I'm living in a place sound shielded or isolated enough not to annoy the neighbors.

 Yes i know, but i want to improve in alternate picking and it's even better that there is only one strum bar. 




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Your technique is likely to be sloppier if you practice with the plastic strum bar. You're better off practicing your alt picking on an actual guitar, even if you're just playing on the high E string.

You can also pick up some bad habits with fingering since the frets on the controller don't require any specific placement on the fret buttons. No regard to using the tips of the fingers or playing right next to the frets, etc.