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Way to try to deflect the argument, Mike. Who said anything about Halo? Who said anything about the Xbox at all? I don't give a rat's ass about Halo 3's resolution. You said GT5p is native 1080p and you are wrong. That's it. That's all. I'm not talking about any other games, systems, or anything.

BTW, here are your "extra resolutions".

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Common_Video_Resolutions_2.svg

HDV cameras are 1440x1080. Still no mention of TVs and still higher than GT5p.




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Please no political correctness here, I'm enjoying his schooling of this guy.

I mean MikeB is just blatant about how he avoids each self-precipitated event that it makes me laugh, hard.

It’s almost “let’s put him out in the street and shoot him” worthy, as the other guy said I’m not fascinated by GTA’s graphical quality I just want MikeB to type at least 1 thought of truth.



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rocketpig said:
Way to try to deflect the argument, Mike. Who said anything about Halo? Who said anything about the Xbox at all? I don't give a rat's ass about Halo 3's resolution. You said GT5p is native 1080p and you are wrong. That's it. That's all. I'm not talking about any other games, systems, or anything.

BTW, here are your "extra resolutions".

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Common_Video_Resolutions_2.svg

HDV cameras are 1440x1080. Still no mention of TVs and still higher than GT5p.

Those are the most common display resolutions. For example it does list 480p resolutions like 854 x 480 (EDTV) or 720 x 480, but 640 x 480 is also common (a ATSC standard) not listed. 1280x1080 which you agree is at least a 1080i resolution is not listed neither. IMO "i" just stands for interlaced and "p" for progressively scanned, like it always has.



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

PS3 vs 360 sales

You do know that Assassins Creed displays at 30fps which nulls your past post.

 

btw: ND and Insomniac are PS3 dev houses, you must know this, what they say can be as outlandish as

some of the Sony PR retards from time to time. You should look at it with your own eyes, if it looks good to you

if the game is flowing properly (no slow downs or invisible pixels or jumps in the depth.) then who cares what resolution it is. 



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MikeB said:
rocketpig said:
Way to try to deflect the argument, Mike. Who said anything about Halo? Who said anything about the Xbox at all? I don't give a rat's ass about Halo 3's resolution. You said GT5p is native 1080p and you are wrong. That's it. That's all. I'm not talking about any other games, systems, or anything.

BTW, here are your "extra resolutions".

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Common_Video_Resolutions_2.svg

HDV cameras are 1440x1080. Still no mention of TVs and still higher than GT5p.

Those are the most common display resolutions. For example it does list 480p resolutions like 854 x 480 (EDTV) or 720 x 480, but 640 x 480 is also common (a ATSC standard) not listed. 1280x1080 which you agree is at least a 1080i resolution is not listed neither.


1080i resolutions aren't listed because it's an interlaced format and listing every possible combination of the resolution would be impossible.

This is not difficult to understand. 1080p and 1080i are very different. All I ask is for you to find me one example showing anything below 1920x1080 advertised as a 1080p resolution.

Or you could just admit that GT5p is not natively 1080p and we can both resume whatever it was we were doing before this thread.




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rocketpig said:
MikeB said:
rocketpig said:
Way to try to deflect the argument, Mike. Who said anything about Halo? Who said anything about the Xbox at all? I don't give a rat's ass about Halo 3's resolution. You said GT5p is native 1080p and you are wrong. That's it. That's all. I'm not talking about any other games, systems, or anything.

BTW, here are your "extra resolutions".

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Common_Video_Resolutions_2.svg

HDV cameras are 1440x1080. Still no mention of TVs and still higher than GT5p.

Those are the most common display resolutions. For example it does list 480p resolutions like 854 x 480 (EDTV) or 720 x 480, but 640 x 480 is also common (a ATSC standard) not listed. 1280x1080 which you agree is at least a 1080i resolution is not listed neither.


1080i resolutions aren't listed because it's an interlaced format and listing every possible combination of the resolution would be impossible.

This is not difficult to understand. 1080p and 1080i are very different. All I ask is for you to find me one example showing anything below 1920x1080 advertised as a 1080p resolution.

 

Here an advertisement:

"Rendered in stunning 1080p at 60 frames per second with crisp, realistic lighting and camera effects (replays rendered in 1080p 30fps)."

http://www.us.playstation.com/PS3/Games/Gran_Turismo_5_Prologue



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

PS3 vs 360 sales

Sony... Press... Release...

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MikeB said:
rocketpig said:
MikeB said:
rocketpig said:
Way to try to deflect the argument, Mike. Who said anything about Halo? Who said anything about the Xbox at all? I don't give a rat's ass about Halo 3's resolution. You said GT5p is native 1080p and you are wrong. That's it. That's all. I'm not talking about any other games, systems, or anything.

BTW, here are your "extra resolutions".

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Common_Video_Resolutions_2.svg

HDV cameras are 1440x1080. Still no mention of TVs and still higher than GT5p.

Those are the most common display resolutions. For example it does list 480p resolutions like 854 x 480 (EDTV) or 720 x 480, but 640 x 480 is also common (a ATSC standard) not listed. 1280x1080 which you agree is at least a 1080i resolution is not listed neither.


1080i resolutions aren't listed because it's an interlaced format and listing every possible combination of the resolution would be impossible.

This is not difficult to understand. 1080p and 1080i are very different. All I ask is for you to find me one example showing anything below 1920x1080 advertised as a 1080p resolution.

 

Here an advertisement:

"Rendered in stunning 1080p at 60 frames per second with crisp, realistic lighting and camera effects (replays rendered in 1080p 30fps)."

http://www.us.playstation.com/PS3/Games/Gran_Turismo_5_Prologue


 Another great game (Super Stardust HD):

"High Definition Graphics – Full next-generation 3D-textures with explosions, dust clouds and other similar effects at 1080p."

 http://www.us.playstation.com/PS3/Games/Super_Stardust_HD



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

PS3 vs 360 sales

I think MikeB is right. 1080p was never officially designated as being 1920x1080. Of course, this causes a ton of confusion, and which is why they have created designations like HD Ready 1080p TVs (must be 1920x1080, must support HDCP, etc). And that's why the marketing buzzword FullHD was created, to separate 1920x1080 from other 1080p TVs. Early DLP 1080p TVs were 1280x1080.



rocketpig said:
Oy. It's been proven that it doesn't actually render 1920x1080. It's 1280x1080. You know that.

But that's what you asked for. 1080p advertised yet rendering in lower than 1920x1080.

Sony and all the game companies involved can market their game as 1080p rendering games, as their games are rendering in 1080p. Feel free to try to sue them, you will loose.



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

PS3 vs 360 sales