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Life is Cruel. But this is way too brutal for the would-be kid.

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Transgender Man Celebrates Pregnancy

By Michael Conlon,
Reuters
Posted: 2008-04-04 10:22:15
Filed Under: Nation News, Weird News
CHICAGO (April 3) - A transgender man who is six months pregnant said in an interview aired by Oprah Winfrey on Thursday that he always wanted to have a child and considers it a miracle.

"It's not a male or female desire to have a child. It's a human desire," a thinly bearded Thomas Beatie said. "I have a very stable male identity," he added, saying that pregnancy neither defines him nor makes him feel feminine.

Beatie, 34, who lives in Oregon, was born a woman but decided to become a man 10 years ago. He began taking testosterone treatments and had breast surgery to remove glands and flatten his chest.

"I opted not to do anything with my reproductive organs because I wanted to have a child one day," he told the talk show host. Beatie's wife Nancy said she inseminated him with a syringe using sperm purchased from a bank.

Now, he said, his size 32 jeans are getting a bit tight and his shirts are a bit stretched.

Nancy, to whom he has been married for five years and who has two grown daughters by a previous marriage, also appeared on the show, saying the couple's roles will not change once the baby is born.

"He's going to be the father and I'm going to be the mother," she said. Their marriage is legal and he is recognized under state law as a man.

The couple was shown on video provided by People Magazine, which collaborated with Winfrey on the show, showing the room that will be the baby's nursery. Beatie said the little girl was going to be "daddy's little princess."

The couple was also filmed in their hometown of Bend, Oregon, where he underwent an ultrasound showing the baby in his womb.

"I can't believe it. I can't believe she's inside me," Beatie said while watching the ultrasound image. "We see her as our little miracle."

His obstetrician, Dr. Kimberly James, who practices in the Oregon town, told Winfrey, "This is a normal pregnancy."

She said Beatie stopped taking testosterone two years ago and his levels of the hormone are normal.

"This baby is totally healthy," she said. "This is what I consider a normal pregnancy."

The couple said they had been turned down by a number of other doctors before James agreed to take him as a patient.

The couple said an earlier attempt at pregnancy failed when he developed a tubal pregnancy, resulting in surgery that removed his Fallopian tubes.

The couple said they decided to go public with the pregnancy because they wanted to control the way the news got out. "We're just going to have the baby now," Nancy said. "If we have to, we'll go hide."

The couple runs a small business in Bend and has some savings, she said. In addition, Beatie is working on a book about his childhood, his mother's suicide and his life growing in Hawaii where, as a girl, he was a teen beauty pageant contestant and earned a martial arts black belt.

Winfrey called the development "a new definition of what diversity means for everybody."

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2008-04-04 09:18:52

 



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Well, I might get flamed for this.....
....but if you have a fully functional uterus, you are not a man.



tl;dr
wot?



this is horrifying and educating



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epsilon72 said:
Well, I might get flamed for this.....
....but if you have a fully functional uterus, you are not a man
 

Well only because you are entirely and utterly wrong. A person can quite easily be psychologically a different gender than what they are physically and should be considered the sex that they are mentally rather than their physical gender.

Of course I'm not sure in this case because I don't know any men that would actually want to be pregnant, why didn't his wife have the child instead? 

 



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*shakes head and leaves thread*



"Back off, man. I'm a scientist."

Your theories are the worst kind of popular tripe, your methods are sloppy, and your conclusions are highly questionable! You are a poor scientist. Especially if you think the moon landing was faked.


ioi + 1

This is so disturbing.

I really don't get the mindset that you can change your gender, sounds pretty delusional to me.



To Each Man, Responsibility
Sqrl said:
This is so disturbing.

I really don't get the mindset that you can change your gender, sounds pretty delusional to me.


 Or it could be a recognized medical condition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_identity_disorder

 

To them its not changing their gender from one to the other, its changing their body to match their gender. 



That child will have lots and lots of fun when it becomes of school age...



Rath said:
Sqrl said:
This is so disturbing.

I really don't get the mindset that you can change your gender, sounds pretty delusional to me.


 Or it could be a recognized medical condition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_identity_disorder

 

To them its not changing their gender from one to the other, its changing their body to match their gender. 


No, it's called refusing to accept that which you are!  It's no different than nose jobs, changing hair color, boob jobs, and on and on.  People don't accpet themselves for who they are which is tragic, and seek change that in the case of this transgender pervert is very distrubing.

I don't care if one day some scientist comes out and declares this to be "medical"; I will not believe the hype!  Science has been wrong in the past, that's is why it is called science, and if they declare this to be a medical thing, then they are very surely going to miss the mark.  This is nothing short of absolute perversion.

If you are born a man and struggle with  feelings towards men, accept the fact that you are a man, you have a penis, and deal with it.

If you are born a woman and struggle with feelings towards women, accept the fact that you are a woman, you have a vigina and deal with it.

I have several friends who went deep into the homosexual movement, and both confess to the fact that regardless of how much our sick society tries to tell us that this is normal in some way they knew it to be wrong.  That was their big difficulty, they were told it was O.K. persued it but still felt all the guilt, shame, hate of self, thoughts of suicide and so forth.  They ended up coming out of the homosexual movement, and both are speakers at conferences and anywhere else they can share trying to give people the truth and help concerning this matter.

Homosexuality is not normal, people.

Exits thread; flame me all you want this had to be said.