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zorg1000 on 29 April 2017
Farsala said:
zorg1000 said:

Wii was around 70 million in the same time frame.

Hate to nitpick but, It seems 70m Wii would be using 3years and some months, while your PS2 numbers for JP  were less.

10.34 JP                             3yrs 4 ish months

33.4 Americas                 3yrs 4.5 months

27.19 Other                     3yrs 4 ish months

Total: 70.93

 

Japan as of March 2003-12.70            3yrs 1 ish month

America as of March 2004-29.53      3yrs 5 ish months

PAL as of March 2004-24.79               3yrs 4 ish months

Total-67.02

 

Not only that but the launch dates for PS2 is all over the place for many regions in Asia and Others. For example it launched in Brazil in 2009, (3yr Wii vs 0yr PS2) Other countries like SK (1yr 11m Wii vs  1yr 1m PS2), Taiwan (1yr 8m Wii, vs 0 PS2), HK (Launch months Wii vs 0 PS2), and many others. I am sure you get the point.

It is also obvious that the PS2 got much of its legs by launching in these areas so late. For example in its last few years, most sales came from non major countries which likely included launches.

It is interesting, I always thought the Wii had a sizable lead until Nintendo abandoned it. But tbh the PS2 might have been ahead launch aligned.

TLDR: Launch aligning is tough

Take away one quarter from Japan and its still 70 million.

And yes these smaller markets may push it to Wii level.



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Turkish on 29 April 2017
Lafiel said:
this might be the last quarter that PS4 is ahead of PS2 in shipments though - it will fall behind considerably from now on, but should outdo PS1/Wii in the end

This isn't the first time PS4 fell behind PS2 looking at the graph below, if Sony hits their target of 78M for this fy, PS4 will end up ahead again by this time next year even if it should fall behind next quarter. PS4 will keep up with PS2 in this race to 100M.

JRPGfan said:
Lafiel said:
this might be the last quarter that PS4 is ahead of PS2 in shipments though - it will fall behind considerably from now on, but should outdo PS1/Wii in the end

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You might be right though, looking at the graph, unless it gets some better sales shortly.  (Zhuge's graph):


umegames on 29 April 2017

Does it make a difference that some people bought a pro to upgrade? I would imagine very few people bought a 2nd ps2 just to get a slim model. Only speaking to the value of the ps2 sales vs ps4 /ps4pro sales. still good however



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Alby_da_Wolf on 30 April 2017

Great trend, and if Sony will launch PS5 not earlier than in 2020, it will have as much time as PS3 to show its legs, but with a far better launch and having become affordable and mainstream far earlier, and having kept on selling strong also after launch. Maybe PS2 is unreachable, as it had a total competition, XB+GC, weaker than XBOne+Wii U+NS (even without NS and with Wii U dead, XBOne + Wii U will outsell XB+GC probably within one year, while most probably XBOne alone will outsell them within another couple of years), but PS4 definitely can outsell not only PS3, but also PS and Wii, unless Sony clumsily kills it early like Ninty did with Wii.
And what's even better, its simple PC-like architecture allowed production costs to drop very fast.



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Barkley on 30 April 2017
umegames said:
Does it make a difference that some people bought a pro to upgrade? I would imagine very few people bought a 2nd ps2 just to get a slim model. Only speaking to the value of the ps2 sales vs ps4 /ps4pro sales. still good however

The PS2 (Non-Slim) was WAY more unreliable than the PS4 though, I had 2 fat ps2's die on me. Worrying about people buying second consoles due to wanting to upgrade, or failures, just isn't worth it, because there's no way to determine the impact.