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bigtakilla on 16 April 2017
torok said:
bigtakilla said:

We didn't fight an army for 8 years. We fought people.

I'm just using the official dates from the web. Fighting people or an army it's not that different: you have to use tons of cash, soldiers die, you shoot people. War is not that simple. Take ISIS for example. They aren't an army representing a nation, but it's basically the same. 

Isis is the same as a military?...... No, no they aren't. A military is more than guys with guns shooting people.  



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bigtakilla on 16 April 2017
VGPolyglot said:
bigtakilla said:

They don't have the right to shoot at us, and if they didn't we wouldn't have the right to shoot back. They can want us out all they want.

You didn't specify who it was. And yes, they can shoot American soldiers, as American soldiers are there when they shouldn't be. That is their home, they don't have anywhere else to go, while the American soldiers could just go right back to the US to avoid getting killed.

Whoever shoots at us. And I'm sure the folks that shoot American soldiers are great upstanding people who are victims of military invasion (but they're not).



VGPolyglot on 16 April 2017
bigtakilla said:
VGPolyglot said:

You didn't specify who it was. And yes, they can shoot American soldiers, as American soldiers are there when they shouldn't be. That is their home, they don't have anywhere else to go, while the American soldiers could just go right back to the US to avoid getting killed.

Whoever shoots at us. And I'm sure the folks that shoot American soldiers are great upstanding people who are victims of military invasion (but they're not).

Uhh, yes they are. They didn't asked to be invaded and bombed, leaving much of their infrastructure destroyed and population displaced, and thousands dead. Of course they're shooting at the US military when they're destroying their country.



bigtakilla on 16 April 2017
VGPolyglot said:
bigtakilla said:

Whoever shoots at us. And I'm sure the folks that shoot American soldiers are great upstanding people who are victims of military invasion (but they're not).

Uhh, yes they are. They didn't asked to be invaded and bombed, leaving much of their infrastructure destroyed and population displaced, and thousands dead. Of course they're shooting at the US military when they're destroying their country.

Well, expect to be fired back on. It still doesn't make them a military though.



VGPolyglot on 16 April 2017
bigtakilla said:
VGPolyglot said:

Uhh, yes they are. They didn't asked to be invaded and bombed, leaving much of their infrastructure destroyed and population displaced, and thousands dead. Of course they're shooting at the US military when they're destroying their country.

Well, expect to be fired back on. It still doesn't make them a military though.

Well, you're incredibly broad when you say who you were fighting, but if they weren't organized, than yeah, they weren't a military. Also, talking about your first sentence, you're acting as though they started firing first, which they did not. They US intervened and attacked first, so it's them that are firing back.



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bigtakilla on 16 April 2017
VGPolyglot said:
bigtakilla said:

Well, expect to be fired back on. It still doesn't make them a military though.

Well, you're incredibly broad when you say who you were fighting, but if they weren't organized, than yeah, they weren't a military. Also, talking about your first sentence, you're acting as though they started firing first, which they did not. They US intervened and attacked first, so it's them that are firing back.

They did when I was there.



VGPolyglot on 16 April 2017
bigtakilla said:
VGPolyglot said:

Well, you're incredibly broad when you say who you were fighting, but if they weren't organized, than yeah, they weren't a military. Also, talking about your first sentence, you're acting as though they started firing first, which they did not. They US intervened and attacked first, so it's them that are firing back.

They did when I was there.

Maybe you as an idividual did not start firing first, but as a collective the US military did. Besides, I'm pretty sure you treated them as a collective, too.



bigtakilla on 16 April 2017
VGPolyglot said:
bigtakilla said:

They did when I was there.

Maybe you as an idividual did not start firing first, but as a collective the US military did. Besides, I'm pretty sure you treated them as a collective, too.

I treated anyone who shot at me all the same, yes. But no. I didn't treat everyone who lived in IRaq as the enemy. In fact we played baseball and soccer with many of the locals. We worked along side us, I was a part of training their military (Iraq's) and we've had many join our ops.



VGPolyglot on 16 April 2017
bigtakilla said:
VGPolyglot said:

Maybe you as an idividual did not start firing first, but as a collective the US military did. Besides, I'm pretty sure you treated them as a collective, too.

I treated anyone who shot at me all the same, yes. But no. I didn't treat everyone who lived in IRaq as the enemy. In fact we played baseball and soccer with many of the locals. We worked along side us, I was a part of training their military (Iraq's) and we've had many join our ops.

So, my question is, what were your thoughts on the war? Why did you join the military? What did you expect to accomplish, and how successful would you say it's been?



bigtakilla on 16 April 2017
VGPolyglot said:
bigtakilla said:

I treated anyone who shot at me all the same, yes. But no. I didn't treat everyone who lived in IRaq as the enemy. In fact we played baseball and soccer with many of the locals. We worked along side us, I was a part of training their military (Iraq's) and we've had many join our ops.

So, my question is, what were your thoughts on the war? Why did you join the military? What did you expect to accomplish, and how successful would you say it's been?

I joined the military because I was living in poverty, and since leaving I got a college education, a $30/hr job I love and drive a lexus.

 

As far as how I feel about war of any kind is inconsequential. I would have to know far more about them than I do. It sucks that anyone has to die, and yet if you ask me whether I would prefer going to war with North Korea or allow them to keep testing and eventually gain nuclear weapons and the ability to send them around the world, I'd say let's go to war. 

 

As far as what I expected to accomplish when I joined was simply to better my life. I'd say I done that in spades.