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Never tried a Chinese SCART to HDMI converter. I bought a 25 inch crt TV with S-Video input instead of framemister, couldn't afford this box for my HDTV. :|

I still want a SCART. :(



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bonzobanana said:

What hdtv do you have?

If the TV has VGA input it already has a RGB input and they are the same level as scart so you could look for a RGB scart to VGA adapter. That just processes the sync and doubles the scan lines and deinterlaces I think so you won't lose any quality but it would mean you'd also need a VGA switchbox and a scart switchbox I guess inline.

Are you in Europe or the USA? 

Im in USA, I have a Vizio 1080p TV that I bought last year, Im not sure if it has VGA though, I'll check when I get home, but if it does, your solution is WAY better than using a SCART to VGA converter. Thanks for the tip!




darkrulier said:
bonzobanana said:

What hdtv do you have?

If the TV has VGA input it already has a RGB input and they are the same level as scart so you could look for a RGB scart to VGA adapter. That just processes the sync and doubles the scan lines and deinterlaces I think so you won't lose any quality but it would mean you'd also need a VGA switchbox and a scart switchbox I guess inline.

Are you in Europe or the USA? 

Im in USA, I have a Vizio 1080p TV that I bought last year, Im not sure if it has VGA though, I'll check when I get home, but if it does, your solution is WAY better than using a SCART to VGA converter. Thanks for the tip!

Just note that old consoles input in 240p, and most modern HDTVs output at the lowest in 480i, so if you just use that as a passthrough without something like the Framemeister to convert it properly, it's still going to have problems.



VGPolyglot said:
darkrulier said:

Im in USA, I have a Vizio 1080p TV that I bought last year, Im not sure if it has VGA though, I'll check when I get home, but if it does, your solution is WAY better than using a SCART to VGA converter. Thanks for the tip!

Just note that old consoles input in 240p, and most modern HDTVs output at the lowest in 480i, so if you just use that as a passthrough without something like the Framemeister to convert it properly, it's still going to have problems.

Yup, I'm screwed, I just checked the specs of my TV vizio d43-d1 (found the receipt online with the model no.) and it doesn't support either VGA or 240p, so SCART to HDMI convert it is. Thanks for the help!




If your in the USA are you sure you have scart RGB output from your consoles? Pretty sure the N64 needs conversion to RGB scart output. So you are going to need scart RGB cables for all your consoles (not normally sold in the US I would of thought) and a RGB conversion for your N64.

Then you could get a Scart RGB to component conversion box which should be cheaper than scart RGB to hdmi.

I can't help thinking your best option is to buy a nice portable CRT set. In the UK they are practically given away and suspect the US is the same. A small 14-17" set would be ideal I think. Not only that it will have absolute zero input lag and if you have any light gun games they will work on a CRT. It's the best option. Try to get a bedroom set with very light use ideally with a trinitron tube. Don't get a widescreen CRT go for a standard 4:3 aspect tv.



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bonzobanana said:
If your in the USA are you sure you have scart RGB output from your consoles? Pretty sure the N64 needs conversion to RGB scart output. So you are going to need scart RGB cables for all your consoles (not normally sold in the US I would of thought) and a RGB conversion for your N64.

Then you could get a Scart RGB to component conversion box which should be cheaper than scart RGB to hdmi.

I can't help thinking your best option is to buy a nice portable CRT set. In the UK they are practically given away and suspect the US is the same. A small 14-17" set would be ideal I think. Not only that it will have absolute zero input lag and if you have any light gun games they will work on a CRT. It's the best option. Try to get a bedroom set with very light use ideally with a trinitron tube. Don't get a widescreen CRT go for a standard 4:3 aspect tv.

Sega Master System, Sega Genesis, Sega Saturn, PlayStation, and SNES all natively support RGB, even in North America. The N64 does not natively support it, however, so it has to be modded in order to work. Its best native signal is S-Video.



VGPolyglot said:
bonzobanana said:
If your in the USA are you sure you have scart RGB output from your consoles? Pretty sure the N64 needs conversion to RGB scart output. So you are going to need scart RGB cables for all your consoles (not normally sold in the US I would of thought) and a RGB conversion for your N64.

Then you could get a Scart RGB to component conversion box which should be cheaper than scart RGB to hdmi.

I can't help thinking your best option is to buy a nice portable CRT set. In the UK they are practically given away and suspect the US is the same. A small 14-17" set would be ideal I think. Not only that it will have absolute zero input lag and if you have any light gun games they will work on a CRT. It's the best option. Try to get a bedroom set with very light use ideally with a trinitron tube. Don't get a widescreen CRT go for a standard 4:3 aspect tv.

Sega Master System, Sega Genesis, Sega Saturn, PlayStation, and SNES all natively support RGB, even in North America. The N64 does not natively support it, however, so it has to be modded in order to work. Its best native signal is S-Video.

I understand the consoles support it but just wondered if the cables were available as scart is a european standard of connection. I guess he can order from Europe or maybe aliexpress etc but in the past it used to be the higher quality standard for the US was s-video and then they moved to component.

Wow there is an RGB mod for the original NES.

http://retrorgb.com/systems.html

However as previously stated I think a CRT is the best option both for value and for results. Many retro games rely on zero input lag as delivered by 50/60hz CRT sets. They may not look quite as nice but the handle much better with silky smooth response.



bonzobanana said:
VGPolyglot said:

Sega Master System, Sega Genesis, Sega Saturn, PlayStation, and SNES all natively support RGB, even in North America. The N64 does not natively support it, however, so it has to be modded in order to work. Its best native signal is S-Video.

I understand the consoles support it but just wondered if the cables were available as scart is a european standard of connection. I guess he can order from Europe or maybe aliexpress etc but in the past it used to be the higher quality standard for the US was s-video and then they moved to component.

Wow there is an RGB mod for the original NES.

http://retrorgb.com/systems.html

However as previously stated I think a CRT is the best option both for value and for results. Many retro games rely on zero input lag as delivered by 50/60hz CRT sets. They may not look quite as nice but the handle much better with silky smooth response.

There are NTSC SCART cables that you have to buy, as PAL SCART cable don't work on NTSC consoles. However, the main problem is that the vast majority of NTSC TVs don't have SCART inputs, so there needs to be something that converts it to HDMI.