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Goatseye said:
VGPolyglot said:

Obama was involved militarily in 3 countries that Bush wasn't: Yemen, Libya and Syria.

And 3 of them have 1 thing in common, none of them were started by Obama.

He inherited a country in war time and a military industry complex hungry to be fed half of our national budget.

And he's the commander-in-chief. He's in charge of what the military does, and he should be held accountable for it. If he didn't want to be criticized for his war efforts, he shouldn't have become president.



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VGPolyglot said:
Goatseye said:

And 3 of them have 1 thing in common, none of them were started by Obama.

He inherited a country in war time and a military industry complex hungry to be fed half of our national budget.

And he's the commander-in-chief. He's in charge of what the military does, and he should be held accountable for it. If he didn't want to be criticized for his war efforts, he shouldn't have become president.

Sure, Gitmo is a military prison, he tried to close that since 2008. How did that go?

He's the president, not the king.



Goatseye said:
VGPolyglot said:

And he's the commander-in-chief. He's in charge of what the military does, and he should be held accountable for it. If he didn't want to be criticized for his war efforts, he shouldn't have become president.

Sure, Gitmo is a military prison, he tried to close that since 2008. How did that go?

He's the president, not the king.

Yes, he doesn't have complete control, but he was no doubt an active member in the decision-making process, and he has supported participation in the wars. I may be on your side on certain issues like transphobia, but I'm not going to be an apologist for someone who has authorized drone strikes that have killed numerous innocent people.



VGPolyglot said:
Goatseye said:

Sure, Gitmo is a military prison, he tried to close that since 2008. How did that go?

He's the president, not the king.

Yes, he doesn't have complete control, but he was no doubt an active member in the decision-making process, and he has supported participation in the wars. I may be on your side on certain issues like transphobia, but I'm not going to be an apologist for someone who has authorized drone strikes that have killed numerous innocent people.

I never condone civilian deaths and drone strikes in its infancy was atrocious; the problem mostly resided mostly on shoddy intels. 

And also I don't expect you to have a "hive mind", you're leftist after all. 



Ka-pi96 said:
VGPolyglot said:

Why?

Because I don't think people should be able to walk in whichever bathroom they want just because they "feel" a certain way. Bathrooms (and certain other places) are separated by gender for a reason and "feelings" don't change those reasons.

They have been doing it for thousands of years without any drama. Why restrict it now? You have likely shared the same bathroom with someone who is trans for your entire life and never even knew about it.
Allot of transgender people you wouldn't recognize the fact they have/are undergoing transition unless they told you.

I have two very good trans-friends in real life, in-fact they are one of my bestest mates.
They look and act like the sex they identify with and they get treated like the sex they identify with. (Female to male transition.) they would not only look out-of-place in a females toilet, but I can imagine the shit-storm that women would cause if they suddenly started seeing men using their bathroom.

Besides, whatever reproductive organs someone has/doesn't have dangling between their legs is not only not your concern, it's none of your business anyway.

And FYI. It's more than just "feelings".

Ka-pi96 said:

Well I wouldn't consider telling those with a dick to use the mens room and those with a vagina to use the womens room to be discrimination so...

You do realise what undergoing transition can entail right? You do realise that corrective surgery also exists?

VGPolyglot said:

OK, then let transsexuals use the bathroom they want. It seems that you only want the option that will convenience you the most, but the question is why would you be so bothered if you saw a transsexual person in the same bathroom as you?

Which is how it has always been. And it was never an issue then, so why should it be an issue now?

Rogerioandrade said:

I don´t think so. People who hate transgenders could do that anywhere.

Having their own bathrooms would actually be a sign of respect, showing them that people really care about them and their needs.

Most transgenders I know, don't wish to be treated differently. They wish to be treated like the sex they identify with and look like.

TheBlackNaruto said:

Well to be fair...and I am just pointing this out here......it is a choice to be a transgender.....so would that be ignorant to say?

More to it than that.

TheBlackNaruto said:

 So it is just someone who feels trapped in the wrong body whether they do something about it or not?

Yup.

etking said:

Why should LBGT people get more rights than non-LGBT people?

It's not "more rights".
You do understand the term Equity right?
This is about Equity. Not equality. Not more rights.
Here is an image:


If you think a man who acts like a man, sounds like a man, looks like a man... Should be forced to use the same bathroom as women because of how that person was born... Then that is not equity. Or equality. That is stupid.

Flilix said:

I've never seen any unisex bathrooms yet, but I think all bathrooms should be like that.

The interesting part is that this is almost a non-issue in most countries around the world, when the yanks wish to blow something out of proportion... They do it in a spectacular fashion. Haha
You should take the Australian approach and care less.

MarkkyStorm said:

Is that too hard for you guys to understand?

I would never feel safe with my daugher going to a bathroom where any men could enter just for claiming that he's transexual. And if he's not? Will be a supervisor in every bathroom to guarantee who is trans and who is not? Wouldn't that be more embarassment to trans people?

Also, that's not a fucking demonstration of hate over transexuals, that's not something to make them feel bad, it's just a simple fucking bathroom. If you have a dick, you go to men's bathroom. If you don't have, then you can go to the ladies room. SImples as that. It should be that easy. Sincerely, I get disappointed everytime I see an irrelevant question like that turning into something big. IT'S JUST A BATHROOM.

And how the hell do you think it will be policed?
You do realise most of the time you cannot actually tell who is trans and who isn't just by a simple glance? That you have shared a bathroom with someone who is trans your entire life?
Are you going to start demanding a toilet license? And have an armed-guard at every single toilet enterance to enforce this? Check under everyone's skirts to make sure they have the appropriate equipment?

It has never been an issue, so why should it be an issue now? Let them use the bathrooms they desire.

ArnoldRimmer said:

Their high suicide rate doesn't have anything at all to do with the fact that transgender is a kind of mental disorder.

Rubbish.
Gays and Lesbians have a higher suicide rate than their heterosexual peers, is that due to it being some kind of mental disorder as well?


Ka-pi96 said:

For the 3rd bathroom idea I think it's largely situational. Could work quite well in some places such as restaurants or fast food places as a unisex bathroom since then parents with young kids could use it if needed too. For schools however I'm not sure how worthwhile it is. I don't know any of the figures or anything but how many schools even had any transgender kids at them? Maybe I'm majorly off but it just seems they're really rare so the actual demand for special bathrooms for them isn't really going to be there. Ignoring the costs of actually implementing though it could work.

Australia has 3-bathrooms. Male. Female. And Disabled/Everything else.
Transgenders just as they should... Use the toilets they identify with.

Scisca said:
I'm seriously starting to regain my respect for America. Trump is way better than I've ever hoped him to be.

Go D! Keep on doing your job! A simple guideline - the louder the leftists howl, the better you decisions are!

The hilarious part is if Trump gets kicked out at the next election and the "leftist" president reverses everything Trump does.

The fact that America continues to argue over toilets is pretty amusing to most of the planet, American Politics could become a comedy television show.




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In the first place he/she didn't need to change to the other side. He/She was a normal human being. Yes your body, your rights. You made a choice, then face the music. For people who cry acceptance, they were the ones who failed to accept themselves right from the start. Very hypocritical if you ask me.



Good move! I dont know why you guys want your daughers going to the bathroom next to old men!



Geralt said:
Good move! I dont know why you guys want your daughers going to the bathroom next to old men!

Joke's on you. I don't have a daughter!



Geralt said:
Good move! I dont know why you guys want your daughers going to the bathroom next to old men!

... And this changes that how? A Transgender man is a man. They look like a man, act like a man, identify as a man, probably had surgery to become a man. These are the people that will be forced to share the same bathroom with your 'daughters'.




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And now Maura Healey just had an 8 year old girl come on stage and defend her "transgender" 7 year old brother. He hasnt even hit his first puberty yet and your telling me he knows hes a women and not a man? Again it looks like parents arent really doing a good job.