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Goodnightmoon said:
m_csquare said:

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To me is similar to the people saying that 1080p looks blurry now that 4k is the new thing

Now what was fantastic little time ago feels not enough today, this girls feels fustrated for not having better graphics just because she knows she could have better graphics. And this is natural to some degree but happens too fast nowadays.

Personally I adjust the settings of the game until the framerate starts to get unestable, then I drop the settings a bit and never look them again, just because I can have it looking better I shouldn't get fustrated if already looks fine and the less I'm looking at the settings, the better, I rather do it once and never look back so I'm not constantly changing things.

i rarely see ppl complain abt 1080p. But if they're complaining abt 720p display on large monitor, then I completely agree with them. 1080p has been consumer standard for a very very very long time. Heck most of the industry are already shifting to 4k. so yea, it's not illogical to expect something that's been standard for a long time.



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Captain_Yuri said:

God I hate motion blur. That's the one thing I wish we could turn off on consoles cause it really is annoying to me as well.

That's the first thing I turn off in most games, I don't get why they put it on everything it's really annoying.



m_csquare said:
Goodnightmoon said:

To me is similar to the people saying that 1080p looks blurry now that 4k is the new thing

Now what was fantastic little time ago feels not enough today, this girls feels fustrated for not having better graphics just because she knows she could have better graphics. And this is natural to some degree but happens too fast nowadays.

Personally I adjust the settings of the game until the framerate starts to get unestable, then I drop the settings a bit and never look them again, just because I can have it looking better I shouldn't get fustrated if already looks fine and the less I'm looking at the settings, the better, I rather do it once and never look back so I'm not constantly changing things.

i rarely see ppl complain abt 1080p. But if they're complaining abt 720p display on large monitor, then I completely agree with them. 1080p has been consumer standard for a very very very long time. Heck most of the industry are already shifting to 4k. so yea, it's not illogical to expect something that's been standard for a long time.

They are rare, but they are already starting, lets see in 1-2 years how many people are claiming 1080p is blurry as fuck.



Heh, I was just playing the For Honor open beta, which for some reason locked the texture resolution to HIGH. My gtx 960 only has 2gigs of VRAM so I ended up just reducing the render resolution to 720p to maintain a solid 60fps. Didn't effect my enjoyment any. I also played the Witcher 3 at a slightly reduced resolution and medium or lower settings to stay within the 50-60fps range. Graphics aren't terribly important to me. If they were I would have bought a more expensive card.



In my experience the difference between high and ultra is unnoticeable in a lot of games. It's just not worth the performance hit. The sweet spot for me is high at 60 fps in 1440p.



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Yeah, happens to me all the time...I usually don't buy highest end cards (it happened only few times in last 20 years), so naturally there are games that can simply push more then my hardware is capable of (besides the games that do it no matter the hardware)...so sometimes if game is exceptionally beautiful, during gameplay, I tend to go into settings to see how good maxed out it looks...then I go back and just play the game.

If at any point I feel enough frustration, I'll just go out and buy a better GPU...considering that happens every 3 or so years (current 7970 is some 4 years old), I guess my level of frustration is no greater then someone who bought PS4 at launch and opted to buy PS4Pro now.



pokoko said:
Recent years? Graphics have always been a massive selling point and quality improvement in general has always been an emphasis in any industry.

"you don't need graphics for immersion or fun"

How are you going to play a video game without graphics?

I am 100% sure that you did get that I was referring to having the best possible graphics, not "any graphics at all".



I like to have the best possible graphics that my hardware allows for. But not at the sacrifice of performance. I have a pretty high end machine, but newer games coming out are still forcing me to scale back the graphics to maintain my desired 30-60fps. It doesn't bother me. It's just the way it is.

But I do like that my PC actually gives me these options. I can lower the stuff that's less important to me and boost the stuff that's more important.



m_csquare said:
Goodnightmoon said:

To me is similar to the people saying that 1080p looks blurry now that 4k is the new thing

Now what was fantastic little time ago feels not enough today, this girls feels fustrated for not having better graphics just because she knows she could have better graphics. And this is natural to some degree but happens too fast nowadays.

Personally I adjust the settings of the game until the framerate starts to get unestable, then I drop the settings a bit and never look them again, just because I can have it looking better I shouldn't get fustrated if already looks fine and the less I'm looking at the settings, the better, I rather do it once and never look back so I'm not constantly changing things.

i rarely see ppl complain abt 1080p. But if they're complaining abt 720p display on large monitor, then I completely agree with them. 1080p has been consumer standard for a very very very long time. Heck most of the industry are already shifting to 4k. so yea, it's not illogical to expect something that's been standard for a long time.

The worst thing about 720p is the fact that it doesn't scale directly to a 1080p screen.  If we still had 720p TVs, it wouldn't look back.  But the scaling to 1080 causes the pixels to not be uniform in size, giving it a more ugly appearance than it should otherwise have.

I don't think there will be a lot of people who complain about 1080p. As resolution increases, there are diminishing returns.  But also, 1080p scales perfectly into 4K (and so does 720p, for that matter).



For me the more frustrating part was the uneven performance. First it takes a while to set up if the default settings aren't working right. So I tweak all the settings until it runs decently at the start then have to go back into settings later when it hits a difficult section where other effects or details become the bottleneck.

Everquest, prepare for a raid by turning all the settings down, still stare at the floor in busy places to be able to move. I remember almost not being able to complete Doom 3 because it slowed down so much at the end. Same with TW2, certain scenes with lots of fog or water spray crippled the game on my PC. And FSX so pretty and smooth from high above drifting through the 3D clouds, oh but tweak the settings as part of landing procedures or you'll be touching down at 10fps at a large airport.

And yeah, after you have dialed it all down to get through a section your setup struggles with, you kinda miss it and now see it as a downgraded version, so you go back into settings to turn things on again, and so the cycle continues. I prefer devs doing the balancing for me on console so I never have to check the settings beyond a simple brightness check and spend my time playing instead of adjusting.

Nowadays it's mostly my kids that play on my laptop and I still get to solve problems with mods and settings. Half an hour to set up some mod combination in Minecraft which they play for 5 minutes cause it still runs like crap, ugh.