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Final-Fan on 07 February 2017

A one-member mafia faction is just stupid. There is literally no difference between that and Serial Killer. Two sets of two is possible, or one set of mafia and a serial killer. It might not be too weighted against town to have 4 total scum when they can easily kill each other, depending on what powers town started with beyond mason recruiter.



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Final-Fan on 07 February 2017

Wow, spurge really went on the warpath! If he were literally any other player I would think it was scummy how he is waving around the lynch trains he's been on like a talisman that 100% proves he's town, when those lynches haven't even been proven right. But somehow, on spurge it's at least a little bit believable. (Wrong, but believable.)

Darwin looks a lot worse to my eyes than Blade, which is condemnation of Darwin and not trust of Blade. I share your reservations about Stefl. Noctis is a big question mark to me and I would like to see his thoughts on recent events as soon as he can muster them.

I suppose we should look back and see if there was any motivation for the prof kill beyond "it's prof", or for Sword, but I haven't done that yet and probably won't have time tonight.



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Final-Fan on 07 February 2017
spurgeonryan said:
Stefl1504 said:

While I can see where you are coming from, I deem it also weird that you point out 2 at all. And even if it is 2, still more likely to have more scum overall.

A worried post.
Also he agrees it ia not impossible.
Yet now after multiple days, multiple kills and multiple supposed failed attempts by him to save random people this reason is his only reason that I may be scum.
This reason that even he said is not crazy early on. he actually seemed worried that I knew something about his team.

YesterDay I found this post and disagreed that it signified he considered two total scum a serious possibility.  But now he's posted much more recently and definitely is considering two total scum, which I agree is suspicious. 

Okay, so, I assume 2 scum are at a minimum in the pool
So right now, we only have 24 hours or they can freely lynch, great...

He seems to regard you being scum based on the post I was questioning to be a foregone conclusion almost too obvious to mention.  This does smell a bit like scum looking to close the deal. 



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Final-Fan on 07 February 2017
Stefl1504 said:

I am town bodyguard, night one I protected prof, night two ff.

In what way is your bodyguard power different from doctor? 



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Final-Fan on 08 February 2017
spurgeonryan said:
What I said is wrong in which way? Are you talking about myself or what I said about others?^

Since there is little to go on this game,you do remember you and two others thinking it was scummy that I said possibly 2 or 3 right? That is little to go on. So me using my voting foe blade as a town tell is no different. It is little to go on to prove my innocence, but that is what I got so far. I can say that I have been active, have asked questions, investigated, etc but none of that is one or the other. Scum could do that or town could do all that. But the question is whether scum would waste all their votes on blade. That would be reckless as scum and you should see that FF. Any other town could have come in and pushed blade to hammer. Just so happens Darwin came in and pushed in hatz favor.

So please tell me what you mean?

At least three times you mentioned the fact that you voted for Blade and it sounded to me like you were arguing "hey, trust me because I'm voting for scum" when the town doesn't know for sure whether Blade is scum and it wouldn't prove your innocence if he was.

Reckless or not, the way Darwin sailed in at the end and casually put that last vote on hatmoza really convinced me he was mafia.  His vote for hatmoza is bascially because he attacked padib and his data don't prove he's town.  And he's called out people for lurking and then proceeded to go on an epic lurking spree.  (Unlike prof, he appeared to be on the site.)  My instinct says he's mafia, but I am open to being convinced otherwise.  I'm not set in stone on the question.

I don't know.  I'm starting to be convinced you're town, but the last time I thought I had you pegged I was 110% wrong



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BladeSymphony on 08 February 2017
spurgeonryan said:
Two mafia factions in a game this small and we have not found one yet.

Also the question was the Darwin question.

You are very peculiar for someone who was about one vote from being lynched yesterday. You have nothing else to say about yesterdays huge push for you, nothing to say about darwin seemingly coming in and saving you, mostly nothing to say even now but Darwin and stefl possibly being an third party due to his stoic attitude. Or noctis due to his posting pattern?

What about you blade, what would you say about yourself since it seems to be just you and I right now.

I think Darwin is scum precisely because he came in and voted hat without any seemingly legitamate reasoning. I had posted my reasons why, and clearly I was off, but Darwin seems like he knew Hat was town.



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Stefl1504 on 08 February 2017
Final-Fan said:
Stefl1504 said:

I am town bodyguard, night one I protected prof, night two ff.

In what way is your bodyguard power different from doctor? 

I die when I successfully protect, it actually is one of the roles I hate the most in the game... (and i think this is like the 4th time I have the luck of getting it)



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Stefl1504 on 08 February 2017

So in regards to spurge, I am sorry, but the pointing out 2 mafia is so suspicious to me. Day 1 I was mostly thinking that prof wants to lay low to protect himself, day 2 I actually expected him to come out with shit, I regarded his day 1 town play, day 2 it grew suspicious on me. FF was the person left I trust the most. Anyway, to get to the point, we are still in a situation that is awefully shitty and I believe that scum can close the bag once the 24 hour timer runs out.

@FF, yes, I didn't realistically think it was 2, but now that we have >6 people left and >the game isn't over yet... I just put one and one together.

Now the question is if he slipped there or not.



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Stefl1504 on 08 February 2017

I also believe that the swordfish kill would think spurges logic of killing people, as in - keep the exp. players alive to make them eat up each other.

On the other hand, noctis completely flying under the radar could be a nice scum tell for him there.



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Stefl1504 on 08 February 2017

I guess I'd need to read through literally everything to find stuff, but i don't have the time for that shit.

So what I have to put people on my scumlist:

Spurge - 2 scum claim
FF - still being alive
Noctis - inactivity
blade - voting hatz
darwinian - voting hatz and according to blade without reason

So basically it comes down to a coin-toss how I look at those - since there is no longer a freely decidable lynch I can't just say lynch one go for the other...

Now I can assume that noctis and spurge are the only ones I deem wouldn't kill me or ff to mindgame us. Then there is ofc the chance that ff isn't dead because he is scum (yay successful mindgames). Though darwinian and blade could just do the same for mindgames - just that I don't know them well enough.



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