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DonFerrari on 25 January 2017
SonytendoAmiibo said:
Normchacho said:

What does that have to do with your point? Also, that article is nearly 2 years old.

Get. To. The. Point.

 

So I can't use old information, but Digital Foundry can. Hmm. And not only did DF use old information with the Switch spec leak, they also used old information with the recent Scorpio spec leak. And with both leaks, proceeded to pile assumptions on top of old info. Its OK for them to do these things? I say it is misinformation.

Apples to planets



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http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

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Mafioso on 25 January 2017

As someone looking forward to Scorpio, i don't see an issue with DF's coverage.

The issue is with insecure folk and their spinning .

Best getting used to the idea that Scorpio will have many more 4K titles, if not games that always look and perform better than the weaker counterpart. That's the way it works folks.



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SonytendoAmiibo on 25 January 2017
DonFerrari said:
SonytendoAmiibo said:

 

So I can't use old information, but Digital Foundry can. Hmm. And not only did DF use old information with the Switch spec leak, they also used old information with the recent Scorpio spec leak. And with both leaks, proceeded to pile assumptions on top of old info. Its OK for them to do these things? I say it is misinformation.

Apples to planets

 

And some apples cover planets.

   

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Normchacho on 25 January 2017
SonytendoAmiibo said:
Normchacho said:

What does that have to do with your point? Also, that article is nearly 2 years old.

Get. To. The. Point.

 

So I can't use old information, but Digital Foundry can. Hmm. And not only did DF use old information with the Switch spec leak, they also used old information with the recent Scorpio spec leak. And with both leaks, proceeded to pile assumptions on top of old info. Its OK for them to do these things? I say it is misinformation.

The first key difference is that you tried to pass it off as current information (Strange that a site dedicated to finding the smallest resolution differences now say that resolution doesn't matter.) While DF gave the proper age, and natureof the information they were using in both of those cases.

You still haven't actually formulated a real argument to support your point of view (which I assume is just DF=bad?). All you've done is jump from vague point to vague point without really definding any of them.

First, it was that they were making too many assumptions when talking about leaked specs. When it was pointed out to you that no, they really aren't, you jumped to wanting them to be held legally liable for someone else breaking an NDA for some reason. Then, when you were told that lible laws don't work like that, you posted some random article about the factors that effect image quality. Now, you're back to talking about "misinformation" even though it's been pointed out to you by like half a dozen people that this isn't misinformation.

 

Are you just trolling? Do you have some sort of bone to pick with DF? Did you just not have a clear image of what you wanted to get across when you made the OP? What's going on here?



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SonytendoAmiibo on 25 January 2017
Normchacho said:
SonytendoAmiibo said:

 

So I can't use old information, but Digital Foundry can. Hmm. And not only did DF use old information with the Switch spec leak, they also used old information with the recent Scorpio spec leak. And with both leaks, proceeded to pile assumptions on top of old info. Its OK for them to do these things? I say it is misinformation.

The first key difference is that you tried to pass it off as current information (Strange that a site dedicated to finding the smallest resolution differences now say that resolution doesn't matter.) While DF gave the proper age, and natureof the information they were using in both of those cases.

You still haven't actually formulated a real argument to support your point of view (which I assume is just DF=bad?). All you've done is jump from vague point to vague point without really definding any of them.

First, it was that they were making too many assumptions when talking about leaked specs. When it was pointed out to you that no, they really aren't, you jumped to wanting them to be held legally liable for someone else breaking an NDA for some reason. Then, when you were told that lible laws don't work like that, you posted some random article about the factors that effect image quality. Now, you're back to talking about "misinformation" even though it's been pointed out to you by like half a dozen people that this isn't misinformation.

 

Are you just trolling? Do you have some sort of bone to pick with DF? Did you just not have a clear image of what you wanted to get across when you made the OP? What's going on here?

 

The point has been stated about 100 times now. Surprisingly you have not noticed it.

Fact: Digital Foundry uses outdated info to substantiate their claims.

Fact: Digital Foundry uses assumptions to substantiate their claims.

Fact: Digital Foundry knowingly receives info that is protected by a legally binding NDA agreement. The information was not meant to be revealed to the public and is not yet finalized by the companies involved for public release.

These are the things we are discussing here. But since you have made Digital Foundry an untouchable deity who can never do wrong, maybe you should just agree to disagree and leave it at that.



   

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Mafioso on 25 January 2017

Digital Foundry is a business and is about internet traffic/sponsors at the end of the day.

They make lots of money stirring up the fanboy wars just as any other gaming site. They know who their most frequent flyer club is and its evident in how they tailor their content. Notice how 900p vs 1080p was such a high point of contention for all these years , then how they selling faux 4k as almost 4K and impressive....to now debating or not whether Scorpio will deliver native 4K without seeing its first game.



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SonytendoAmiibo on 25 January 2017
Mafioso said:

Digital Foundry is a business and is about internet traffic/sponsors at the end of the day.

They make lots of money stirring up the fanboy wars just as any other gaming site. They know who their most frequent flyer club is and its evident in how they tailor their content. Notice how 900p vs 1080p was such a high point of contention for all these years , then how they selling faux 4k as almost 4K and impressive....to now debating or not whether Scorpio will deliver native 4K without seeing its first game.

 

Exactly. They are a site that survives on clicks. They are really no different than many other sites out there. When they do an actual spec analysis of a console sitting right in front of them they are doing there jobs well. When they resort to rumors like LKD or Emily, they do us a disservice.

   

Hey! They got SONY on my amiibo! Wait a minute. Two great gaming tastes that game great together!

Switch FC: SW-0398-8858-1969

DonFerrari on 25 January 2017
SonytendoAmiibo said:
Normchacho said:

The first key difference is that you tried to pass it off as current information (Strange that a site dedicated to finding the smallest resolution differences now say that resolution doesn't matter.) While DF gave the proper age, and natureof the information they were using in both of those cases.

You still haven't actually formulated a real argument to support your point of view (which I assume is just DF=bad?). All you've done is jump from vague point to vague point without really definding any of them.

First, it was that they were making too many assumptions when talking about leaked specs. When it was pointed out to you that no, they really aren't, you jumped to wanting them to be held legally liable for someone else breaking an NDA for some reason. Then, when you were told that lible laws don't work like that, you posted some random article about the factors that effect image quality. Now, you're back to talking about "misinformation" even though it's been pointed out to you by like half a dozen people that this isn't misinformation.

 

Are you just trolling? Do you have some sort of bone to pick with DF? Did you just not have a clear image of what you wanted to get across when you made the OP? What's going on here?

 

The point has been stated about 100 times now. Surprisingly you have not noticed it.

Fact: Digital Foundry uses outdated info to substantiate their claims.

Fact: Digital Foundry uses assumptions to substantiate their claims.

Fact: Digital Foundry knowingly receives info that is protected by a legally binding NDA agreement. The information was not meant to be revealed to the public and is not yet finalized by the companies involved for public release.

These are the things we are discussing here. But since you have made Digital Foundry an untouchable deity who can never do wrong, maybe you should just agree to disagree and leave it at that.

If they aren't revealing anything that would break MS IP or any other partner no one could held them liable, accept it.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

SonytendoAmiibo on 25 January 2017
DonFerrari said:
SonytendoAmiibo said:

 

The point has been stated about 100 times now. Surprisingly you have not noticed it.

Fact: Digital Foundry uses outdated info to substantiate their claims.

Fact: Digital Foundry uses assumptions to substantiate their claims.

Fact: Digital Foundry knowingly receives info that is protected by a legally binding NDA agreement. The information was not meant to be revealed to the public and is not yet finalized by the companies involved for public release.

These are the things we are discussing here. But since you have made Digital Foundry an untouchable deity who can never do wrong, maybe you should just agree to disagree and leave it at that.

If they aren't revealing anything that would break MS IP or any other partner no one could held them liable, accept it.

 

I accept the fact that I can't trust anything Digital Foundry says anymore because they make too many assumptions based on outdated information which was acquired under shady circumstances.

   

Hey! They got SONY on my amiibo! Wait a minute. Two great gaming tastes that game great together!

Switch FC: SW-0398-8858-1969

DonFerrari on 25 January 2017
SonytendoAmiibo said:
DonFerrari said:

If they aren't revealing anything that would break MS IP or any other partner no one could held them liable, accept it.

 

I accept the fact that I can't trust anything Digital Foundry says anymore because they make too many assumptions based on outdated information which was acquired under shady circumstances.

Ok. That's on you, and doesn't seem to be anyone here agreeing with you.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."