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Intrinsic said:
ironmanDX said:

 

This thread? Flame bait? No, surely not. He clearly states to keep discussion on topic and not turn this into a console war.

 

 

Anyway... I'm going to wait and see what quality of games come out for the Scorpio before buying it. Probably not worth the money for me right now. I'm yet to buy a 4k TV.

You should have seen what this thread was by the time I made that post. there was a reason it was locked at some point you know?

 

Yeah , I wasn't quite done with the OP yet and posted too soon. Bad internet connection acting up. My bad. At least CGI was nice enough to re-start the thread. Mods are so nice here. At least untill Rol gets in there.

   

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SonytendoAmiibo said:
Normchacho said:

That is absolutely not how libel laws work.

Also, what the hell? Digital Foundry is always very clear about what they're reporting and how they come up with there assumptions. What is your problem with them?

 

The problem is they shouldn't be making any assumptions. With there stolen corporate secrets.

So what you're saying is that if someone gives them information about an unreleased piece of hardware, they should just ignore it? 

Do you work for the marketing department of a major console maker? Because otherwise this has absolutely no negative effect on you with which to justify this weird vendetta.



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SonytendoAmiibo said:
Pemalite said:

Fair enough. We will have to agree to disagree. :P

I'm happy that they make the distinction between an assumption and fact in their videos and write-ups, not all outlets do such a thing.

 

The thing that bothers me is when Digital Foundry makes system spec assumptions before the actual specs are known. Through misinformation they are causing damage to a system's image and turning potential customers away. They are helping no one with these practices and damaging their own reputation. But I guess they get a lot of clicks by doing it.

I'm the opposite. I enjoy reading/hearing their opinions, but they do share allot of the same perspectives on tech as I do.

amdboomer said:

I think they can be damaging. To be honest, look at most of their recent videos. The seem Sony focused. I don't want to say pro Sony, but definitely Sony focused. The bad part about the Scorpio leak, is that it is not a leak. It is from a white sheet freely available on Microsoft's developer site that is from July 2016. Let me say that again, July 2016. Anybody that has watched the video should be able to clearly see they are guessing at everything, but one thing. The ESRAM being gone from Scorpio is the only 100% factual thing from the white sheet. I like it when they perform analysis, but the theory videos on Switch and Scorpio are damaging. 

There is a reason why they had such a focus on Sony though.
They had the latest and greatest hardware on the market, so of course they will wish to test all the various facets so that us consumers know all the details and can thus align our purchasing decision to the findings.

As for power, we knew that the Xbox One "Pro" was never going to be a true 4k gaming machine the moment Microsoft announced their intentions.
If the hardware doesn't exist in the PC in an affordable form, it's not going to happen on a console... But peoples wildest expectations ran rampant. Microsoft's advertising did not help matters either.

As for the eSRAM, Microsoft's 4x L2 cache increase (I'm not sure if it's the GPU L2 cache or CPU, but CPU seems likely.) is likely to counter the removal of the eSRAM, so it's an interesting decision... And one that I said was likely a possible hardware decision that Microsoft may take last year.

SonytendoAmiibo said:

 

And how many potential Switch consumers have said they are not buying the system now because of what Digital Foundry said. They came to a new conclusion based on assumptions made by Digital Foundry.

I made my decision not to buy the Switch before we knew the hardware details. I'm not a fan of the form factor, the terrible price and inadequate hardware was just a nail in the coffin... I'm likely not alone on that assumption.

KLAMarine said:
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure the Pro and Scorpio could both do "true 4k" if they would scale back on the graphics front. Maybe go for art style to make your game look great?

Just a thought.

Technically the same is possible with the original Xbox One and Playstation 4, they have HDMI 1.4 which allows for 4k, 30hz.

And you are entirely correct. The more you push the visuals, the more you need to cut corners elsewhere, Resolution and/or framerate is usually one of the easiest cutbacks to make.

I am happy if a games resolution is higher than 1440P, but lower than 4k, the game still gets downsampled and still looks amazing on my 1440P panels.




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Normchacho said:
SonytendoAmiibo said:

 

The problem is they shouldn't be making any assumptions. With there stolen corporate secrets.

So what you're saying is that if someone gives them information about an unreleased piece of hardware, they should just ignore it? 

Do you work for the marketing department of a major console maker? Because otherwise this has absolutely no negative effect on you with which to justify this weird vendetta.

 

Im saying Digital Foundry is receiving information they know is breaking someones NDA contract. Everyone knows it.

   

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SonytendoAmiibo said:
Normchacho said:

So what you're saying is that if someone gives them information about an unreleased piece of hardware, they should just ignore it? 

Do you work for the marketing department of a major console maker? Because otherwise this has absolutely no negative effect on you with which to justify this weird vendetta.

 

Im saying Digital Foundry is receiving information they know is breaking someones NDA contract. Everyone knows it.

So is pretty much any article that has ever said anything about a product that hasn't been unveiled yet. What's your point? What are you suggesting be done?



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Normchacho said:
SonytendoAmiibo said:

 

Im saying Digital Foundry is receiving information they know is breaking someones NDA contract. Everyone knows it.

So is pretty much any article that has ever said anything about a product that hasn't been unveiled yet. What's your point? What are you suggesting be done?

 

Obviously Digital Foundry should use a little more common sense when they leak system specs based on outdated information and assumptions. Its damaging to the entire gaming industry.

   

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I mean that's what Digital Foundry does...Right?



SonytendoAmiibo said:
Normchacho said:

So is pretty much any article that has ever said anything about a product that hasn't been unveiled yet. What's your point? What are you suggesting be done?

 

Obviously Digital Foundry should use a little more common sense when they leak system specs based on outdated information and assumptions. Its damaging to the entire gaming industry.

They also didn't pass that information off as anything other than what it was. They simply provided information, and then put it in perspective for people who would have trouble understanding that on there own.

Providing consumers information isn't damaging if it's done responsibly, which in this case is howi it's being handled.



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Pemalite said:
I think what Digital Foundry is doing is fantastic and they take a fairly neutral approach to it all with an emphasis on accurate sourced technical information worded in such a way as to be more appealing to those who are not tech-orientated.
It's also re-aligning people's expectations so that products are not overhyped in terms of capabilities.

Are you running for office? 



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