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NoCtiS_NoX on 22 January 2017
BladeSymphony said:
Alright, this is an insane theory based on the themeing of the game, and I could be way off, but so far, my speculation goes hand in hand with that big ol' chart up there.

I double check the AGDQ website that Stefl linked and when looking up games I noticed something strange. There were many games listed as Any%, and a few listed with specific goals for the speedrun.

Now I crosschecked this with every game claim so far.

Any%

Prof - Timecop
linkz - Psychonauts
Trucks - Bishi Bashi Special
Arm - The Addams Family
Clyde - New Super Hook Girl
Zero - Furi
Miz - FE: Blazing Sword
Blade - MN9
Spurge - Trauma Center: New Blood

Specific Goals
FF - Undertale
Noct - Mega Man
Axumdouche - Hyper Princess Pitch
Sword - Hitman: Blood Money
Hat - Super Smash Bros. Melee

This leads me to think, maybe, just maybe, the mafia are the ones with specific goals attached to them. This checks out with Clyde's claim that Hat is lying, and if he was, Sword and Axum being scum here would fall in line with the specific goals theory, because that makes all three lying mafia scum douche bags.

So Noct and FF would be the final two remaining mafia members. I'm led to believe that Noctis was the one who plundered Arm's body.

This is just a theory, mind you, but it pieces together oddly well with all the information provided.

Do you want another theory?

Smash bros, Princess pitch, fire emblem. All of those have in common. Ninty games and characters.
5 mafia in a 14 man game. That's total overkill blade. >_>



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Final-Fan on 22 January 2017
spurgeonryan said:
Well only three people did not vote Sword I believe. Miz voted no one, blade and someone else voted noctis.

Ok, well prof did not have to explain his surviving the bomb, FF just said he just did survive.

I do not really buy the Mafia Messenger possibility, but what were the other messages? I know that Noctis did not recieve one, but what did Trucks say again?

I have no special information about prof.  What I posted in the table was the same thing TOS did, which was what prof has CLAIMED. 

IMO a friendly neighbor's poke should be differentiable from the message of a messenger (mafia or otherwise).  I.e., there should be a difference between the mod saying "I am passing this message on to you from X:  he says he is town" and "X says hi and he is town:  the mod has spoken".  But Stefl can run the game however he wants and I haven't gotten any such message myself. 



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Final-Fan on 22 January 2017
Clyde32 said:
Nope. Like I said it was a safe type of claim. My argument with him also lead to him just wanting me to drop it instead of applying pressure.

YesterDay I could hardly have applied more pressure than I did.  ToDay I have to work with the knowledge that I scanned you innocent.  And I thought you said safe was the wrong word? 



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BladeSymphony on 22 January 2017

If FF scanned axum as not town, and Hat scanned him as a mad bomber, combined with the game in question, throwing my theory out the window.

@Noctis, Hyper Princess Pitch isn't a Nintendo game.

Correct me if I am wrong, Clyde, but you said Hat was a mafia redirector? Then how could he possibly be correct in identifying Axum as a mad bomber?



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BladeSymphony on 22 January 2017
spurgeonryan said:
Well stefl said it just how I said it a page back. If blade simply can only tell stefl to pass a message to me, then that is one thing. But we have to take his word on it unless trucks had the same kind of message. If he post it himself then that would be a different situation. Is there anything confirming that he just tells stefl who to message and that is it? Because wrote whatever I wanted to Zero. A huge paragraph.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Friendly_Neighbor

I can always send out a message to someone else tonight to confirm, but like I said, I do not personalize my messages at all.



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Final-Fan on 22 January 2017
spurgeonryan said:
Well stefl said it just how I said it a page back. If blade simply can only tell stefl to pass a message to me, then that is one thing. But we have to take his word on it unless trucks had the same kind of message. If he post it himself then that would be a different situation. Is there anything confirming that he just tells stefl who to message and that is it? Because wrote whatever I wanted to Zero. A huge paragraph.

Don't post a mod PM.  (or quicktopic post, I guess, this game)

When I was the friendly neighbor, all I did was target that person.  The mod was the one who sent a presumably identical notification to the target which is INTENDED to inform that person beyond any doubt that I am town.  In fact, I targeted YOU that game.  Did you get the message before you quit? 

A messenger can be town or scum, and they compose their own messages that the mod passes along verbatim.  The message is only as trustworthy as the sender, and its contents are not endorsed by the mod. 



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BladeSymphony on 22 January 2017

I no longer think my theory makes sense either. Worth a try, but it is based on theme. I don't think FF is scum either.



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Final-Fan on 22 January 2017
BladeSymphony said:
If FF scanned axum as not town, and Hat scanned him as a mad bomber, combined with the game in question, throwing my theory out the window.

@Noctis, Hyper Princess Pitch isn't a Nintendo game.

Correct me if I am wrong, Clyde, but you said Hat was a mafia redirector? Then how could he possibly be correct in identifying Axum as a mad bomber?

My result for axumblade was innocent, but in my previous experience this means "innocent of being mafia" for normal cop roles (not psychic).  Clyde's past experience differs. 

Clyde believes that hatmoza and axum were on the same team and threw axum under the bus.  If so, it was an extremely daring choice considering the serial killer.  Risky to give up a mafia who was not really suspected at all, on a role cop claim that couldn't actually get results in any future Night, on Day 2! 



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Final-Fan on 22 January 2017

Unless noctis was the scum who would feed hatmoza the results, I guess.



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BladeSymphony on 22 January 2017

That certainly explains how Hat explained Axum's role verbatim. But why would an innocent SK and a mafia redirector be on the same team?



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