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The most important thing is who is nominated and why.

TB made this point previously in response to the "Official" Game Awards and proved this with his own  awards ceremony. In there he provides commentary not only about every single nominee and why they were nominated but also goes to explain the meaning of the categories in detail.

While he does sound like a pretentious dick throughout the video(more than usual) I enjoyed listening to it far more than watching any awards show. The best way to honor a game in my opinion is to explain what's so great about it in detail instead of just plunking down a meaningless award with no explanation whatsoever. They might as well just rolled a dice for both nominees and the winner and it wouldn't be any less meaningful.

Honestly I did not care about who won an award in the end. The important thing was that all nominees deserved to be there. And he made sure to explain it thoroughly.

WARNING: NO MUSIC ACTS, GAME ADVERTISEMENTS OR HYDROBOTS IN THE VIDEO!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w65sF8vxYeU

Very long video with not much to see unless you don't know about the games. Just listen to it as a podcast.



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Guess the topic was too arbitrary.



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vivster said:
Guess the topic was too arbitrary.

I think the problem is that everybody knows that quality is not the only, or even primary, reason one game gets an award over the rest of them.

And the same is true for music, movie or any other kind of awards.



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JEMC said:
vivster said:
Guess the topic was too arbitrary.

I think the problem is that everybody knows that quality is not the only, or even primary, reason one game gets an award over the rest of them.

And the same is true for music, movie or any other kind of awards.

I don't even think that quality is among the top 5 reasons why games win Game Award awards.

Just wanted to highlight this very informative piece of content. I mean TB often sounds and behaves like an insufferable pretentious asshole but the message that is sent here is pretty great and relates not only to gaming but any award ceremony really.



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vivster said:
JEMC said:

I think the problem is that everybody knows that quality is not the only, or even primary, reason one game gets an award over the rest of them.

And the same is true for music, movie or any other kind of awards.

I don't even think that quality is among the top 5 reasons why games win Game Award awards.

Just wanted to highlight this very informative piece of content. I mean TB often sounds and behaves like an insufferable pretentious asshole but the message that is sent here is pretty great and relates not only to gaming but any award ceremony really.

But what he (and you with this thread) are saying is something like "water is wet". We all know that, we don't need TotalBiscuit or someone else to explain us that.



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JEMC said:
vivster said:

I don't even think that quality is among the top 5 reasons why games win Game Award awards.

Just wanted to highlight this very informative piece of content. I mean TB often sounds and behaves like an insufferable pretentious asshole but the message that is sent here is pretty great and relates not only to gaming but any award ceremony really.

But what he (and you with this thread) are saying is something like "water is wet". We all know that, we don't need TotalBiscuit or someone else to explain us that.

If we couldn't have "water is wet" threads in this forum then the Console forums would be completely empty. And those threads don't even have the benefit of 4h of TB's buttery voice.



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Moulin Rouge was nominated for 8 oscars.
So no, I cant agee, its no even a matter of wether it won or not, It did not even deserve to be there. At all.
What im saying is, Overwatch is our Moulin Rouge.



Jpcc86 said:
Moulin Rouge was nominated for 8 oscars.
So no, I cant agee, its no even a matter of wether it won or not, It did not even deserve to be there. At all.
What im saying is, Overwatch is our Moulin Rouge.

It's not about agreeing with the nominies or award winners. It's about clarification. As long as you clarify things you can be as subjective as you want.

The beauty of the arbitrary awards is that they're based on one man's opinion. He does not pretend that  the choices that were made represent any demographic. The Oscars and Game Awards do however. That's why they're so corruptable.



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Obviously, there are no "official" awards, they're just opinions. The bigger an awards show, the more often money is involved somewhere, so they become less transparent and more suspect.

If I ran an awards program of some sort, it would have transparency and it would be focused on games. No music, no celebrities. The information about who is voting would be out there, as well as an explanation of the voting process. There would definitely be video clips from voters about why they endorsed the winner and what set that game above the rest for them. Perhaps even a smaller clip for each nominee but maybe not, depending on time.

The obvious problem is that a big, puffy show takes a lot of money, which usually requires corporate backing. Corporate backing is when things turn murky. The ideal solution would be to avoid any conflict of interest but then you loose things like "world premiere" trailers, which do bring a lot of people.

It's a trade-off, either direction.



pokoko said:
Obviously, there are no "official" awards, they're just opinions. The bigger an awards show, the more often money is involved somewhere, so they become less transparent and more suspect.

If I ran an awards program of some sort, it would have transparency and it would be focused on games. No music, no celebrities. The information about who is voting would be out there, as well as an explanation of the voting process. There would definitely be video clips from voters about why they endorsed the winner and what set that game above the rest for them. Perhaps even a smaller clip for each nominee but maybe not, depending on time.

The obvious problem is that a big, puffy show takes a lot of money, which usually requires corporate backing. Corporate backing is when things turn murky. The ideal solution would be to avoid any conflict of interest but then you loose things like "world premiere" trailers, which do bring a lot of people.

It's a trade-off, either direction.

World Premier trailers have nothing to do in an award show though. That's what trade shows are for. Award Shows shouldn't be about clicks or profit in the first place.



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