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First off, im not trolling, im just wondering, please be respectfull in your replies.

Allright, I own a PS4 and I am mainly a PC player for third party games. The PC gaming community I know well and there are some things to keep in mind, but the general question I have is why do people play on PC, well... some reasons are obvious

- Easy to upgrade
- Higher Frames per second, especially with gaming monitors 120-144hfps support
- Higher Graphics fidellity on 1080p-1440p displays
- PC Exclusives, like Civilization, Total War, Planet Coaster, Cities Skylines, Hearthstone etc.

What Pc gaming is 100% not about
- 30 FPS or lower
- HDR (no monitor in the world supports it I think and I don't recall it in any PC game)

What PC gaming isn't really about
- 4k Gaming
- VR (both the main pc VR headsets sold less combines then the PSVR at this point)

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/ --> clearly shows most people don't own anywhere near a 4k display as main display.

So the PS4 Pro focusses mainly on enhancing VR, giving 4k checkerboard or native resolution and adding HDR (altough the normal PS4 also does this, btw it looks amazing) anyway, all of these things don't seem to be the reasons people switch to PC to me? its more about getting higher performance, better graphics on their main display or ease of upgrading, well I guess the PS4 pro is easy to upgrade to but quite expensive compared to just swapping one component.

Anyway, altough I do think its a great entry for people buying a first PS4, or for people who just play on PS4 have a 4k tv and want to use it, the point sony made for wanting to "stop people from switching to pc" seems to be a miss in my books?

Whats your opinion, share and discuss !




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Who said it was? PS4 Pro is only meant to limit eye cancer for PC players wanting to play Sony exclusives and that is a good thing. A console will never replace a PC or the other way around.



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vivster said:
Who said it was? PS4 Pro is only meant to limit eye cancer for PC players wanting to play Sony exclusives and that is a good thing. A console will never replace a PC or the other way around.

https://gamerant.com/ps4-pro-pc-sony-613/

"I saw some data that really influenced me. It suggested that there’s a dip mid-console lifecycle where the players who want the very best graphical experience will start to migrate to PC, because that’s obviously where it’s to be had. We wanted to keep those people within our ecosystem by giving them the very best and very highest [performance quality]. So the net result of those thoughts was PlayStation 4 Pro – and, by and large, a graphical approach to game improvement."




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Ka-pi96 said:
malistix1985 said:

- Easy to upgrade

Really got to disagree with this. It may be possible to upgrade, and maybe even easy for some people, but for the average person it`s far from easy. For me personally upgrading means buying a whole new PC, that isn`t easy!

 

Oh and I`m not really sure that what you said here really counters what Sony said. You`ve said why you think current PC gamers game on PC rather than elsewhere while if Sony said "stop people from switching to pc" that would suggest they weren`t targeting those people, but instead people that aren`t yet PC gamers but could become them (potentially for different reasons than existing PC gamers, otherwise they`d most likely already be PC gamers too).

How is buying a new PC not easy? People do it all the time with consoles.

Upgrading the PC means in 99% of cases upgrading the GPU. If you have a good case you don't even need a screwdriver for that. Slide off side door, pull out old GPU, put in new GPU. Not really a difference to changing a cartridge. Same goes for upgrading RAM.

If that is too hard for people for gaining flexibility they simply don't care about flexibility.



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malistix1985 said:
vivster said:
Who said it was? PS4 Pro is only meant to limit eye cancer for PC players wanting to play Sony exclusives and that is a good thing. A console will never replace a PC or the other way around.

https://gamerant.com/ps4-pro-pc-sony-613/

"I saw some data that really influenced me. It suggested that there’s a dip mid-console lifecycle where the players who want the very best graphical experience will start to migrate to PC, because that’s obviously where it’s to be had. We wanted to keep those people within our ecosystem by giving them the very best and very highest [performance quality]. So the net result of those thoughts was PlayStation 4 Pro – and, by and large, a graphical approach to game improvement."

His data is obviously garbage as that never happens. And if that happens, the people switching weren't interested in console gaming in the first place.



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vivster said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Really got to disagree with this. It may be possible to upgrade, and maybe even easy for some people, but for the average person it`s far from easy. For me personally upgrading means buying a whole new PC, that isn`t easy!

 

Oh and I`m not really sure that what you said here really counters what Sony said. You`ve said why you think current PC gamers game on PC rather than elsewhere while if Sony said "stop people from switching to pc" that would suggest they weren`t targeting those people, but instead people that aren`t yet PC gamers but could become them (potentially for different reasons than existing PC gamers, otherwise they`d most likely already be PC gamers too).

How is buying a new PC not easy? People do it all the time with consoles.

Upgrading the PC means in 99% of cases upgrading the GPU. If you have a good case you don't even need a screwdriver for that. Slide off side door, pull out old GPU, put in new GPU. Not really a difference to changing a cartridge. Same goes for upgrading RAM.

If that is too hard for people for gaining flexibility they simply don't care about flexibility.

replacing/adding RAM and a GPU is comparable to replacing a harddrive on the ps4 in almost any situation, even for first-time pc constructors, when you buy a pc at almost any online store generally there is an option for lets say $50 the store will assemble the bought components into a pc for you, even then replacing the GPU and Ram, or adding, should be so simple anyone can do it.




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vivster said:
malistix1985 said:

https://gamerant.com/ps4-pro-pc-sony-613/

"I saw some data that really influenced me. It suggested that there’s a dip mid-console lifecycle where the players who want the very best graphical experience will start to migrate to PC, because that’s obviously where it’s to be had. We wanted to keep those people within our ecosystem by giving them the very best and very highest [performance quality]. So the net result of those thoughts was PlayStation 4 Pro – and, by and large, a graphical approach to game improvement."

His data is obviously garbage as that never happens. And if that happens, the people switching weren't interested in console gaming in the first place.

Sony still used it as the "main reason" for the pro and i feel like if that truely is/was the reason they failed to deliver a product that would sway a person that would switch from PS4 to PC because the reasons for switching are not delivered in the product they put out on the market, thus the reason for the topic.

I agree, I personally play PC mainly for the reasons stated above, and I like the PS4 because of collecting a nice game collection and being able to share them with my friends and bringing a console with me to a friends house or some games and playing togheter, completely different.




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vivster said:

Upgrading the PC means in 99% of cases upgrading the GPU. If you have a good case you don't even need a screwdriver for that. Slide off side door, pull out old GPU, put in new GPU. Not really a difference to changing a cartridge. Same goes for upgrading RAM.

99%?I would think sticking a SSD in instead of a HDD would be at least as common

I thought laptops have outsold desktops for many years now



I disagree with you - the majority of pc gamers don't play games on PCs that are more powerful than the standard PS4. The Pro is probably attracting those pc gamers who were waiting to migrate to console gaming.



Lawlight said:
I disagree with you - the majority of pc gamers don't play games on PCs that are more powerful than the standard PS4. The Pro is probably attracting those pc gamers who were waiting to migrate to console gaming.

great, thats not the reason sony gave for making the PS4 pro, so not the question on topic here, but many people who are just jumping into the PS4 ecosystem, from wherever they come, will and should pick up the pro, which is true for sure.

But sony specificly said the Pro was made to stop people who wanted a better performance/graphics in games from jumping to a high end pc from the PS4 and I think they missed the correct excecution if they truely wanted those people to stay/buy the ps4 pro




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