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Forums - Gaming - Scorpio wont do native 4K in most AAA games, its basic math

of course it can. at 20 fps or so.
well, i hope every game that doesnt run at 4k@60 give the choice to run at either 4k@30 or 1440@60



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Snoopy said:
Not how it works. People forget the fact Sony has limited Ram and the CPU is really bottle neck at this point.

CPU is more important for framerate not resolution 



I'd rather Microsoft focus on better fps than resolution.



coolbeans said:
Here are all the (current) PS4 Pro enhanced games that'll be capable of native 4K:

http://smartstocknews.com/85627-list-of-ps4-pro-games-which-will-run-at-native-4k/

Argument over.

I dont see Rise of the Tombraider there or COD Infinete Warfare



LudicrousSpeed said:
Kerotan said:

Ps4 doomed reconfirmed.  they're definitely going to lose that WW Lead now. 

Yikes, no need to be so dramatic. Apply context to the post with the thread and its clear I am talking about its ability for AAA 4k gaming.

If Scorpio is barely going to do any of it, then logic dictates the Pro will do even less :)

 

Light hearted banter not dramatic. Your post is the dramatic one since Sony never targeted native 4k AAA in the first place.

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mutantsushi said:
Ruler said:

1440p is the base line tough for AAA games

Bull.  
The numbers for AAA titles so far have varied, with them taking varying approaches to resolution / rendering.
"Base line" is meaningless drivel.

Bigger picture, yes, we can say that announced Scorpio specs are basically "barely" able to regulaly pull off AAA @ 4k.
So much so that in many games, there will be the tendency to want to drop resolution in favor of FX/FPS.  Fair enough.
But the title of the thread is trolling BS, pure and simple.

they are not varied, they just prove which game really is AAA game visually. Uncharted 4, RoT, FFXV for example all 1440p.

Azzanation said:
Ruler said:

PS4 Pro = 4.2TF

Xbox Scorpio = 6TF  (42% more powerfull)

 

PS4 Pro 1440p = 4,953,600 pixels

4K = 8,294,400 pixels (67% more pixels)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_common_resolutions

 

Now of course people argue its just the GPU and the Xbox One has more ram and better CPU but so does the PS4 Pro with 2.1 ghz CPU, all what Xbox Scorpio has is more ram from 8Gb to 12GB. But i doubt this is enough to give true for 4K, GPU is mostly important to get a higher resolution, the Xbox One will probably hit 7 million pixels maybe 7.5 million pixels but this is still not enough to get true 4K which is 8.3 million

Meanwhile you have all these people and sites going around saying that the Scoripio will do 4K 60fps, it wont even do native 4K

12gigs of Vram is an insane amount if its GDDR5 ram. Thats more than the new Nvidea 1080 card which is claimed to run 4k easily with 8gigs.

Also no one is saying 4k and 60 frames (Maybe X1 Exclusives games like Halo 5 which already run at 60 frames, than you have a native 4k at 60) MS never claimed 60 frames. They claimed native 4k. If gamers are spreading rumours about 4k at 60 than there going to be highly disapointed.

This is a console made for VR. In the announcement video, Fallout 4 VR was clearly mentioned, as well as the fact that the console would be capable of playing games in 4K resolutions at 60Hz.
Read more at http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/xbox-scorpio-release-date-specs-news-rumours-4k-vr#fSAk0jGQWSCktFrr.99



jason1637 said:
Also according to your logic
PS4Pro- 4.2tf
PS4- 1.84
1440p is the Pro which is 43.8% more powerful than the PS4. So the PS4 should run games at 630p which is obviously does not.

from 1080p to 1440p its an 80% increase in pixels. HDR, 4K textures and other visual benifits coming along 4K gaming needs also performance 



Kerotan said:
Light hearted banter not dramatic. Your post is the dramatic one since Sony never targeted native 4k AAA in the first place.

Whatever you need to tell yourself to explain your dramatic replies, whatever. There was absolutely nothing in my post indicating Playstation is doomed :)

And ahahaha @ that bullshit at the end of that post. 4k was literally the first thing they mentioned when talking PS4 Pro. And I don't remember them saying native 4k is indie/remaster only.



LudicrousSpeed said:
Kerotan said:
Light hearted banter not dramatic. Your post is the dramatic one since Sony never targeted native 4k AAA in the first place.

Whatever you need to tell yourself to explain your dramatic replies, whatever. There was absolutely nothing in my post indicating Playstation is doomed :)

And ahahaha @ that bullshit at the end of that post. 4k was literally the first thing they mentioned when talking PS4 Pro. And I don't remember them saying native 4k is indie/remaster only.

Spoiler alert : 

If they genuinely wanted AAA native 4k they've have released an $800 console. whoever takes pr as Gospel?  

 

And I find it ironic you calling my post dramatic after reading that reply. 



One thing you can be certain of, there are more 4k native titles on PS4 Pro right now, today, than there'll be in Scorpio's lifetime. It's also basic math, just not the same kind of math.