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I mean, yeah, it's about 50% likely. Only because we have no idea what roles exist. There could be both a mafia and a town bp. The general idea of a bulletproof is to prevent unfair or random lucky shots. So mafia is fairly reliable, especially given the vig and town busdriver, which could result in 0 townie deaths and 2 mafia deaths in one night.
Also, bp is generally given to these roles, mafia, sk, survivor. I think those are the top three. I believe trucks was an sk one game with a bp/godfather choice, and in general a survivor gets a bp because survivor is an incredibly hard role to win even if you got skills.

Now, you're looking at that and thinking, jeez prof, it looks like you believe he's scum. And for sure, it's likely. However, I've been considering the meta and I'm in between.
Now, fair warning, meta is always complicated, so I could be wrong, but I'm maybe 80% sure of the setup after my own info and some of the flips.

I was attacked, that much I know for sure. I'm generally a high priority target for protection or watching, etc. This would indicate to me that mafia likely has a ninja, and there is a ninja in overwatch which makes me pretty confident of its existence.

A ninjas only real purpose is to evade being tracked or watched. This further indicates we have a tracker watcher combo. My role is generally considered an underpowered cop.
Now let's just say for now that mrp is a town bp. This is basically an underpowered doc.we also have a busdrver, who is a confusion role, but also another version of an underpowered doc.
I am relatively sure that all the town roles are underpowered versions of normal town roles.

Additionally in games with multiple killing roles, there are multiple backups. Like, a mod has to expect that a busdriver can possibly die day one and factor in some other way to prevent town from being steamrolled by bad luck.

Tl;Dr
Given that I think town is multiple small roles instead of 3 or 4 major ones, in order for everyone to have some kind of fun role, I believe that bp is somewhat likely a town role to throw in just to assist with swing.

I think the meta favors a scum bp, but we also might have a mafia bp in addition to a town one.

Tldr 2
It's unwise to guess mrp's alignment based on role meta in a theme game.



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Mr.Playstation said:
zero129 said:

Except i dont think your going to turn out as "Town" BP the just isnt anyway imo.

We have prof who can what block kills also?, then we have you who is bullet prof, we had the vig, So where does this put a town BP??.

Imo the most likely case is that you are telling the truth about being BP but you aint town BP.

Then let's get the question mark out of the way:

Vote: Mr.Playstation

Why do you keep on insisting on your own lynch. If you're indeed town, act like it. Stop merely dropping in after every mention of your name and comment on other things, ask people questions, make a difference.



 

theprof00 said:
Final-Fan said:

Sorry, I meant:  in what previous game did prof vote himself? 

It was last game where I claimed town doc, and zero and spurge kept thinking I was scum, so I said fine, kill me, and voted myself.

As for your second question, I dunno. I think both are scum. I could go either way.

If I were to contemplate which of their potential roles are better as scum, I'd probably say Clyde's is more important to the scum team.

The difference between your self-vote and Mr.P's is you were acting pro-town and mostly zero ignored all logic to call you scum to the point that you broke down and wanted to be lynched in order to avoid playing with him. Mr.P has not been acting pro-town and is self-voting to avoid doing such.



Stefl1504 said:

Okay I have to admit I harshly misremembered that post of his, I kinda had it on my mind it spiraled into mr.p being scum for sure and prof maybe being his mate. The rest of the discussion about mr.p basically stemed from this post and was perceived by me as him still riding that topic.

And I have to admit that I already looked back through all of darwin's posts when I asked what you meant and for examples. This misremembering is coming off as a strong town tell for me, as I believe you'd be more careful about such a statement that could easily be checked. Now that it's cleared up, any change in opinion?

Stefl1504 said:
Linkzmax said:
Question for everyone: Does anyone think darwin is town?

If so, nobody said so so far, and as I stated before - nope for me, nothing that points to town so far and honestly, him being so adamant about mr.p is a better defense for mr.p than mr.p has put up so far



zero129 said:
Guys i just want to know how likely is it for town to have a Vig, BP, Bus Driver, Profs steeling power, plus whatever other town powers the is. Would this not be way OP?. Its just ive never hosted a game so im not really sure on this and its my main reason for questioning Mr.P and thinking his scummy.

As prof explained, Bus Driver is a very swingy role, and Vig can be too. To me, it is highly likely mafia have some kind of protection with both of them being confirmed in the setup. I also highly doubt that both Mr.P and prof are town.  I have a harder time buying prof's role as town than BP, but I have a harder time believing Mr.P's behavior is town than prof's.



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So what's the general stance on what happened with Baalz?



He's dead.



Reading old games can be so much fun. I completely forgot I got a town cop lynched D1 in Round 52 while being so sure MDJ was scum, then D2 I correctly called out the entire scumteam but I really had to be mislynched in response to D1.

Anyways, bringing this up because I feel even better about prof being town, and also because he was adamant about MDJ being town then due to similar behavior analysis as I think he's displaying regarding Mr.P now.

Also, Trucks, you have a script to just read certain posters? I suppose I should PM that, whatever.



Can someone post the votals?

If I am going to vote. I will be honest it will be Darwin.

Darwin is dodging questions, He was quoted 3 times with the same question and he still doesn't answer on why he is surprise that Prof is still alive?

I don't like the way he is using the newb card far too long. I think he needs pressure to answer the question that's being thrown to him.

VOTE: Darwin



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