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zero129 said:
We have a town Vig and a town Bus Driver both dead so far.
Do you guys really believe the is room for 2 more town roles that allow blocking?.
We have prof who claims (At least i think this is what his claiming?) that he can block a kill and it told him he was attacked.
And we have Mr.P claiming to be the town BP.. Just how likely is it that town has both a Vig, Bus driver, Bullet proof, and whatever blocking role prof claims to be??. Plus if the is other town power roles too.
Most likely case is always the simplistic and likely..
In this case its most likely that Mr.P or Prof is lying and with the way Mr.P has been playing im much more willing to believe his the one lying.

prof claimed he can steal a power, and stole Mr.P's power, and was BP for that reason.  Not because he is naturally BP.  So both power claims could be true, and still only one (or even zero) town BP. 



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zero129 said:
Final-Fan said:

P.P.S.  When did prof do that?  (@zero)

It was today when prof claimed someone tried to kill him. He had some power that he used on himself that blocked the kill or something like that id need to look for the exact post to be 100% sure.

Sorry, I meant:  in what previous game did prof vote himself? 



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Between darwin and clyde, who would you rather see lynched and why? 



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Final-Fan said:
zero129 said:

It was today when prof claimed someone tried to kill him. He had some power that he used on himself that blocked the kill or something like that id need to look for the exact post to be 100% sure.

Sorry, I meant:  in what previous game did prof vote himself? 

It was last game where I claimed town doc, and zero and spurge kept thinking I was scum, so I said fine, kill me, and voted myself.

As for your second question, I dunno. I think both are scum. I could go either way.

If I were to contemplate which of their potential roles are better as scum, I'd probably say Clyde's is more important to the scum team.



Gonna do this in small bits, but the first thing about FF is that I can better understand why I came thinking into day 2 he is town (I still think he is, but I want to see if it is valid. It was his quite sober approach displayed in his post about my reaction to prof and how it could be like a charade and stuff. He also didn't jump too hard into the third party speculations, which I also deem good. Overall his attitude towards my whole lynchtrain seemed pretty chill... maybe too chill... I think he was also the one of the people that sparked discussion at that point that went beyond my lynch and weather or not third party is a thing, granted though, the spark he granted with lynching lurkers isn't really something as clean, I am not sure if one of the initial posts in that regard had a time-context I am missing on this first fly-over.

Noctis reads FFs actions as fishy at this point, mostly revolving about interactions with linkz here (grabed the quote three for densities sake). He never gets to do his experiment cuz Mr.P instaclaims (btw, curious about this one if you still remember, what was it going to be?) - (nevermind there it was in his next post) I think that was a point were we pretty much stalled because of us waiting for Mr.P to do something. He drops from the Mr.P lynchtrain because of baalz vote for mr.p.

 

@Linkz

Gonna look it up now - out of my mind i only remember the post where you actually pointed out that what he claimed makes no sense (something by the lines of mafia not killing mr.p makes mr.p look scummy to him when he thought mr.p was town, and from what I remember he only did it after it was pointed out that his leeway period is over).



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Stefl1504 said:

Gonna do this in small bits, but the first thing about FF is that I can better understand why I came thinking into day 2 he is town (I still think he is, but I want to see if it is valid. It was his quite sober approach displayed in his post about my reaction to prof and how it could be like a charade and stuff. He also didn't jump too hard into the third party speculations, which I also deem good. Overall his attitude towards my whole lynchtrain seemed pretty chill... maybe too chill... I think he was also the one of the people that sparked discussion at that point that went beyond my lynch and weather or not third party is a thing, granted though, the spark he granted with lynching lurkers isn't really something as clean, I am not sure if one of the initial posts in that regard had a time-context I am missing on this first fly-over.

Noctis reads FFs actions as fishy at this point, mostly revolving about interactions with linkz here (grabed the quote three for densities sake). He never gets to do his experiment cuz Mr.P instaclaims (btw, curious about this one if you still remember, what was it going to be?) - (nevermind there it was in his next post) I think that was a point were we pretty much stalled because of us waiting for Mr.P to do something. He drops from the Mr.P lynchtrain because of baalz vote for mr.p.

 

@Linkz

Gonna look it up now - out of my mind i only remember the post where you actually pointed out that what he claimed makes no sense (something by the lines of mafia not killing mr.p makes mr.p look scummy to him when he thought mr.p was town, and from what I remember he only did it after it was pointed out that his leeway period is over).

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I can kinda see myself tracing my thought process, but I am not able to gather much new - the only thing new on my mind is actually that discussion with noctis when thinking about final-fan.

I don't think anything he did is too scummy, but I can follow noctis' thought of FF being scummy than miz' thought of noctis being scummy at this point.

Talking about it, with noctis I have the next person my read is probably too weak on.



Linkzmax said:
Darwinianevolution said:

Finally! It's day already! Do nights usually take this long?

Also, let me say hat I'm surprised at the victim. I thought that it would ben any other victim, even if it was just because I've been paying more attention to other players. Mostly three, FinalFan and Mr.P because they've been on the sights of a handfull of players, and Prof because I think he's a very active player here and he's been asking me questions pretty frequently. As for who might be guilty, I don't know. It's easier to read a person's thoughts in person than on the internet. I'm keepeng an eye out for Prof, mostly because he is keeping an eye out for me ( even though he voted for a lynch against Spurge when everyone else was voting for Mr.P or no lynch, and if he was mafia he would have voted against Mr.P to have a player less. That, or they are both mafia and they are playing a game of 4-D chess with us all. Or Spurge and Prof are mafia and he voted Spurge to make himself look innocent. The more ponering I make the more paranoid I got).

And, by the way, what's the role of a town vigilante? What does he do?

I am a fan of shorter Nights, but around holidays it can be appropriate for longer breaks.

You've been paying attention to Mr.P, but are surprised that he wasn't killed? Also, which players have had FF in their sights?

If you're unsure what someone is thinking, prod them further.

Okay I have to admit I harshly misremembered that post of his, I kinda had it on my mind it spiraled into mr.p being scum for sure and prof maybe being his mate. The rest of the discussion about mr.p basically stemed from this post and was perceived by me as him still riding that topic.



I think noctis is a potential scum.
My major points I look for is wishy washy contributions, saying things like maybe/maybe not, hanging back, voting after the train starts, just kind of being here without saying too much.
I think both my leads and noctis fit this description.



Well, just for starters, town busdriver is actually a very swingy role, and can cause major confusion. I would suggest maybe looking up roles on your own so you can form your own opinions. But I'll just leave this page and excerpt here:
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Bus_Driver
"Bus Driver has been seen as each alignment and historically is a pro-Town role; however, some moderators consider Bus Driver to be a Negative Utility role in Town hands, since it is more likely to thwart or confuse power roles than help. The pro-Town intent of this role is to attempt to redirect the scum's kill onto a better target."

"As a pro-Town power role, Bus Driver is similar to a Doctor in that it can prevent a player from being killed if the Bus Driver targets them each Night. However, it does not stop the kill on its own, so it is not as much of a disadvantage to scum if used in this way. With that said, it is far more likely that the Bus Driver will hurt the other power roles as their actions get unexpectedly redirected by the Bus Driver's choices. Thus, it is not considered a great power role."

There is a note about busdriver and bp having a wombocombo to make the busdriver a doctor, but I don't think anyone thinks the bp automatically makes mrp town. I think 90% of the players here think he's a mafia BP.