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Platina on 27 November 2016

Votals

Spurge has been replaced by zero

I don't want to be reading through 100 pages in one sitting so I may post these Votals twice per day if there is a huge influx of posts

With 11 players alive, it takes 6 to lynch. If the day ends without enough players voting, the player with the most votes will be lynched

Player L6 L5 L4 L3 L2 Lynch
Stefl Mr. P          
darwin
 prof
  finalfan
        

History

stefl votes Noctis
Mr. P votes stefl
prof votes darwin
finalfan votes darwin
stefl unvotes



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Linkzmax on 27 November 2016
Linkzmax said:
Darwinianevolution said:

Finally! It's day already! Do nights usually take this long?

Also, let me say hat I'm surprised at the victim. I thought that it would ben any other victim, even if it was just because I've been paying more attention to other players. Mostly three, FinalFan and Mr.P because they've been on the sights of a handfull of players, and Prof because I think he's a very active player here and he's been asking me questions pretty frequently. As for who might be guilty, I don't know. It's easier to read a person's thoughts in person than on the internet. I'm keepeng an eye out for Prof, mostly because he is keeping an eye out for me ( even though he voted for a lynch against Spurge when everyone else was voting for Mr.P or no lynch, and if he was mafia he would have voted against Mr.P to have a player less. That, or they are both mafia and they are playing a game of 4-D chess with us all. Or Spurge and Prof are mafia and he voted Spurge to make himself look innocent. The more ponering I make the more paranoid I got).

And, by the way, what's the role of a town vigilante? What does he do?

You've been paying attention to Mr.P, but are surprised that he wasn't killed? Also, which players have had FF in their sights?

 

Darwinianevolution said:
Final-Fan said:
Vote Darwin for his actions and inactions toDay.

What inactions?

^My questions to start with



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Linkzmax on 27 November 2016
Stefl1504 said:
miz1q2w3e said:
Shot in the dark here, but:does anybody here have any experience with the bulletproof role/item? Are you informed when you lose your BP status?

again something at mod discretion, I personally wouldn't inform the person that he lost his protection no matter what - the only thing I am sure of is that mr.p's protection (if it still exists) is exactly the same as profs, so he would get informed too if he lost his protection. We sadly have no vigilante to support/deny that claim anymore.

As Mr.P pointed out., it'd be inconsistent to inform prof that he's being attacked and thus the BP is being used up, but not inform Mr.P that he's no longer BP.

Mr.Playstation said:

I didn't recieve any E-Mails from Trucks stating that my power has been taken away (Not sure whether it's because I shouldn't or because Prof didn't actually take my power).

Anyways if prof is actually (Starting to not be so sure on that) town, it's been put to good use. 

You can always PM Trucks to try and get some answers.

"Would I be informed if I'm attacked?"
"Would I be informed if I lose my BP?"

And anything else you can think of. Trucks may simply tell you he can't answer one way or another, but it's worth a shot.



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Linkzmax on 27 November 2016
axumblade said:
Clyde32 said:

Here's what Prof is claiming. 

Baal targets someone. 
Mafia redirects him to himself
prof steals power from Mr P
Mafia targets prof

okay. that makes more sense to me. I thought he was claiming that Baal was targeted twice because he was shot and his hook was around his neck. I get it now. 

Judging by the way theprof reacted earlier today, I want to believe him. Darwin was acting questionable on day 1 so I am not opposed to going after him. 

 

theprof00 said:
Anyone else notice the flavor of baalz death?
His hook around his neck
And a bullet in his skull.

Did baalz actually kill himself?
And get killed by someone?

I wonder if we have a redirector

The flavor meta was literally prof pondering if baalz somehow killed himself and was targeted by someone else. Given the conversation right after Day begain, I don't feel good about Clyde restating it in a way in which SK doesn't exist after axum brought up the idea again.



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Linkzmax on 28 November 2016
theprof00 said:
axumblade said:
I have a couple of generic questions.

First question is to Mr. P, do you know if your role will tell you when someone has targeted you for the BP power?

Second, if Baal were to have sent out a shot, would it have gone through? Or would he have simply died first?

My theory is that mafia figured out he was vig and redirected him onto himself. I think baal had enough suspicion of people to have made a good choice night one, additionally, it's a risky role to waste. I believe there is a meta-rule that vig should always shoot night one.

Anyway, back to the subject, it's possible he targeted someone and was redirected onto himself. Also, we don't know what rules trucks has in place. In my experience, we've always done it where all actions happen at once. This is actually the first time I've ever seen the subset rules that miz listed.

If they figured it out, it'd be odd to redirect him to himself rather than to their other kill target, assuming you since double killing him would be such a waste. That'd give the bonus of a false positive for a Watcher or Tracker leading back to Baalz getting lynched.

To support the rest: It is almost always a good idea to shoot as soon as possible, as it reduces numbers. There is some order in resolving actions,(Block before kill for example) but all kills have always been simultaneous here. I think we've always gone by mafiascum rather than epicmafia too.



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Linkzmax on 28 November 2016
theprof00 said:
Hear me out, what if darwin and linkz are scum, and darwin hadn't checked in to the quicktopic yet, and linkz was prompting him to do so.

Go check out Round 58, in which I had two absentee scummates and read the mafia thread. radish replaced in and ultimately was the surviving member to win for us, but I had no problem setting up everything to get him to the final Day.

So, what could be so pressing that I needed darwin in the mafia thread? Was there any difference in darwin's play before and after I asked him about QT?

Your connection is lacking of any behavior analysis.



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Linkzmax on 28 November 2016
Stefl1504 said:

Well, did we actually have everybody chime in until now?

Well, with zero joining I actually deem the game a bit easier, and heres to hoping he will actually not be completely random and ignorant - btw @linkz specifically, what did your spurge-dar tell you so far, since I am fairly sure you were always best at reading him.

Yes, FF and Noctis posted shortly after I noted they were the only ones still missing.(Not that they were late)

As for spurge, maybe you're thinking of my radish pings or someone else's spurge-dar. We discussed spurge very early on:

Stefl1504 said:
Linkzmax said:

Which do you think is the real one? And do you mean two votes on one person in general or two on you specifically?

@FF: I find spurge very hard to read. Even when town he can be incredibly scummy.

I agree, I find spurge really hard to read and I am not sure how he can assume that any vote so far is for real.

That said, I was leaning town.



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theprof00 on 28 November 2016

I'm just spit balling linkz.
I just thought it looked like it might be a connection.
No need to make a federal case out of everything.



Final-Fan on 28 November 2016

I actually had a very strong feeling spurge was town, which frankly amazed me.



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Darwinianevolution on 28 November 2016
Linkzmax said:
Linkzmax said:

You've been paying attention to Mr.P, but are surprised that he wasn't killed? Also, which players have had FF in their sights?

 

Darwinianevolution said:

What inactions?

^My questions to start with

I'm surprised because Mr.P was the most voted for lynch. I imagine that, if I were mafia, I would have chosen Mr.P for the kill and thus, make everyone of the ones that chose him look guilty. Weird strategy, but I have seen it work somehow in person, just screwing with everyone's minds. As for the FF question, Prof and Linkz suspected FF at the somewhat beginning of the game, but now that I've re-read around 30+ pages of old posts, they changed their minds rather quickly. That's what happens when you only listen to the big posts, I suppose :P



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