If he's just a compulsive lurker then I agree it lessens the odds he's a scum character. That kind of thing still makes me want to lynch but I guess we should look for better prospects if they are available.

I agree with the notion you are trying to convey, but lynching 3rd party is a must, no matter what. The only thing you can do is keep them around if you think they have a non-killing role and in return you can remove something really detrimental to town. That is why one simply has to hunt scum, not third party or anything.

No, he just asked if the game was vanilla cuz he also thought it was powered - is the simplest way to put it. Me thinking it was mid-level power game seems to make him think I am scum.. He exactly said the opposite of what you claim he is saying: He thought it is unlikely to be vanilla just from how unlikely it is that a vanilla game is hosted here. We had fairly vanilla games with 14 players.

Well, in my defense to that I can only either say what linkz already said: He kinda did it himself, he has a good excuse to do so if he isn't vanilla but powered and knows the whole role-shenanigans we sometimes do here (add to that that it is a really nice flavour for a power game) and he would have an uncommon role it would even further point to at least some more powers out there. I am really irked by the double standards going against me this game.

Exactly why I took a step back yesterday, for me to say it would feel retarded, since I am actually in the crossfire and it would just seem like a petty attempt to distract people.

Anyway, if i checked correctly there is 2 people that did nothing so far (mr. p, xander) and Darwin who seems to be testing the waters a bit much and I would like to start hearing some opinions from. I would like to check if there if there was any difference in day 1 behaviour as town versus as scum later today, but from my mind it only started on day 2 that he behaved differently and his day 1 is just passive.

Well, for now I have two options, neither of them really safe, but I suppose that's the game for you. One is avoid a first day lynch, but that doesn't mean the bad guys will be stopped, rather the opposite. On the other hand, if I point out someone to lynch, and that person is not lynched in the end, or if it's lynched and it turns out to be innocent, I'm just putting a target on my back.

Now my rudimentary math, please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I don't remember how many bad guys were exactly, lets just say 4. There are 13 playing now. So that leaves us with 4/13 mafia and 9/13 innocent townspeople. If we lynch someone now, we have 9/13 chances of killing an innocent compared to the 4/13 of a mafia one. But if we don't lynch, and we wait for the first murder, then there will be 12 people, 4 mafia and 8 innocents. We have a better chance of finding a mafia not lynching anyone (4/13 < 4/12). Unless I'm missing something, in which case, feel free to correct me.

yes, the per chance successrate is better - but the thing is that we get one more shot if we lynch today - as was pointed out.

What I really wanted is opinions on people though.

Even if Stefl was actually worried and trying to play it off as amusement, it's a null tell. Nobody* wants to be lynched.

As for your other question, I would vote Stefl over Xander based on content. I don't like Xander signing up when posting so little each Day though.

Xander was killed last game, not lynched. My choice if it came down to lynching a lurker would be Mr.Playstation. I don't have any town play to compare to, but last game he gave very little thought Day 1 while not being totally absent. His comment about stirring the pot in the wrong direction seems strange too considering the first two non-joke lynch trains yesterday were on both of the scum.

In fact, show yourself Mr.P!

Vote: Mr.Playstation

Is this a bit of roleplaying/flavor? If not, where'd you get the idea that you'll be a target if you're part of a mislynch?

Accusing someone and turning out to be innocent doesn't look good on you.

@Darwin
"I don't remember how many bad guys therewere exactly, but lets say 4"

I feel like there have been a LOT of comments saying it is likely 3 mafia as 4 would be rather powerful. Not sure if you just aren't paying attention or put no credibility to these. If the latter, I'd be inclined to believe you know something that led to you saying it in the manner that you did.

For that matter, I'm really losing my scum vibe on Stefl, so will be unvoting.

Unvote

Okay so out of the assumed three mafia members at least one of them is a pro otherwise it would be suicide. I'd bet on either axumblade or Stefl. Also getting scum vibes from Clyde32.