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Forums - Sales Discussion - September 2016 NPD Thread! XBO #1; PS4 Slim flops

Lawlight on 14 October 2016
barneystinson69 said:
Lawlight said:
47k is nothing. And that's a 5 week month.

Its quite a bit. People here where expecting a 10-15k gap. It was a much larger win than expected.

Think of it this way - how long will it take for this gap to be oblitrated in Japan?



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barneystinson69 on 14 October 2016
Lawlight said:
barneystinson69 said:

Its quite a bit. People here where expecting a 10-15k gap. It was a much larger win than expected.

Think of it this way - how long will it take for this gap to be oblitrated in Japan?

Why would I? This is the US we're talking about, not Japan.



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wedemboyz on 14 October 2016

The Ps4 outsold the Xbox One in the US by 1.75m, 14% or 1.15:1

Since the release of Xbox One S, the Xbox One outsold the Ps4 in the US by 163k, 36.5% or 1.35:1

 

this gap will increase next month.
Holiday sales will mix the cards again



Ariakon on 14 October 2016
Lawlight said:
barneystinson69 said:

Its quite a bit. People here where expecting a 10-15k gap. It was a much larger win than expected.

Think of it this way - how long will it take for this gap to be oblitrated in Japan?

He'll say it's just NPD, though for some reason, NPD seems to get counted as more significant than worldwide (I'm not saying you do this, Barney, or even the people on this board, it's just that across a number of gaming forums, the only regions that "count" are the US and UK)



Wright on 14 October 2016
Ariakon said:

He'll say it's just NPD, though for some reason,

Because it's a NPD thread...



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Pionner on 14 October 2016
Ariakon said:
Pionner said:
47K is a big gap? 115K in August was a big difference. This is average.

Technically, no, it isn't a large gap, but all the data we had (anecdotal though most of it is) had most of us thinking it would only be by 15 or 20k or so, I bet. It all looked like the top console would pull ahead by a razor-thin margin.

I admit i was one who thought it would  be something like 15k. The actual results still doesn't surprise me and look anything like dominating.

SweetTalia said:
Pionner said:
47K is a big gap? 115K in August was a big difference. This is average.

lol less than 20k is not big .. anything above that to me is imo.. yet alone 40k+

To me over 100K is large and can quickly close the gap and grow your installed base. You aren't changing market share selling 50K sporadically.  



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wedemboyz on 14 October 2016
Pionner said:
Ariakon said:

Technically, no, it isn't a large gap, but all the data we had (anecdotal though most of it is) had most of us thinking it would only be by 15 or 20k or so, I bet. It all looked like the top console would pull ahead by a razor-thin margin.

I admit i was one who thought it would  be something like 15k. The actual results still doesn't surprise me and look anything like dominating.

SweetTalia said:

lol less than 20k is not big .. anything above that to me is imo.. yet alone 40k+

To me over 100K is large and can quickly close the gap and grow your installed base. You aren't changing market share selling 50K sporadically.  

100k in November and December is a very small gap, but a huge one in the Summer. You need to look at percentages:

The Ps4 outsold the Xbox One in the US by 1.75m, 14% or 1.15:1
Since the release of Xbox One S, the Xbox One outsold the Ps4 in the US by 163k, 36.5% or 1.35:1

But these are just launch sale, so don't read to much into it. anything can change this holiday season



Ariakon on 14 October 2016
wedemboyz said:

Since the release of Xbox One S, the Xbox One outsold the Ps4 in the US by 163k, 36.5% or 1.35:1
this gap will increase next month.

The PS4's price cut was only in effect for a little over 3 weeks in those two months, so this doesn't really tell us much. The real unknown is the Pro, if Amazon is to be trusted, that thing is siphoning away sales of the ps4s available now by quite a lot. I think Sony may have announced it too early, as it just looks more appealing than the standard ps4. It's like showing off the new ipad and expecting people to stay interested in the old.



wedemboyz on 14 October 2016
Ariakon said:
wedemboyz said:

Since the release of Xbox One S, the Xbox One outsold the Ps4 in the US by 163k, 36.5% or 1.35:1
this gap will increase next month.

The PS4's price cut was only in effect for a little over 3 weeks in those two months, so this doesn't really tell us much. The real unknown is the Pro, if Amazon is to be trusted, that thing is siphoning away sales of the ps4s available now by quite a lot. I think Sony may have announced it too early, as it just looks more appealing than the standard ps4. It's like showing off the new ipad and expecting people to stay interested in the old.

yes

i will do the same new trend measure again for ps4 pro + ps4 slim vs xbox one s
and later next year scorpio + xbox one s vs ps4 pro + ps4 slim



Ariakon on 14 October 2016
Wright said:
Ariakon said:

He'll say it's just NPD, though for some reason,

Because it's a NPD thread...

Did you read the rest of my post?