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Intrinsic on 22 August 2016

First some details. 

PS4 BOM PS4s BOM PS4n BOM
HDD 500GB $23 HDD 500GB $20 HDD  1TB $30
BRD 1080p $25 BRD 1080p $20 BRD UHD $45
RAM GDDR5 $62 RAM GDDR5 $35 RAM GDDR5x $65
Processors $121 Processors $65 Processors $140
PCU/audio $18 PCU/audio $10 PCU/audio $25
Housing/Mechanicals $25 Housing/Mechanicals $15 Housing/Mechanicals $30
Controller $18 Controller $17 Controller $17
Other $65 Other $38 Other $70
TOTAL $357 TOTAL $200 TOTAL $422

 

The info on the og PS4 circa 2013 is atthentic. 
The costs for the PS4s are estimstes based on changes we at least know have been made and the relative cost reductions on certain components over the past 3yrs. Like in the og PS4 there were 16 RAM modules making up the 8GB of RAM, that's long since been changed to 8 modules with improvements in RAM fabrication. And there are always improvements in manufacturing where multiple components get combined to save space and money....etc.
The costs on the PS4n are estimates mostly pulled outta my ass but for the most part are educated guesses. In some part based on information we have in relation to other components, or cost of other components on Amazon and potential costs in relation to og PS4 prices back in 2013. 
As you can see, the PS4 always came in at under $399. Even if we add in shipping and a marketing overhead we would still be u see $399 and as such the console was always sold at a profit.
With the PS4s we can see that based on estimates of which I could be as much as 20% off; BOM is as low as $200. So worst case scenario we are looking at $240 assuming I'm 20% too low. This doesn't only lend credence to a $299 price point but could result in a very aggressive $249 price point. 
As for the PS4n, that's pretty much just up in the air. Will Sony bite a $22 loss and sell it for $399? or would they go for max profits and sell it for $449/$499? My guess is that they will come in at $399. Which in a manner of speaking explains the recent price hike for PS+.  This is also assuming we end up with a 4.2-5.0TF GPU'd console. If it's a 5.5 TF with more ram and a better cpu it's cost could jump from $422 to as much as $460. 
So.. what do you all think? what are your own total estimates and what do you think the prices are going to be? 

 

dont know whats up with the spacing. i tried.  fixed..... i think. nope still nothing. 



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tak13 on 22 August 2016

Problematic post*



Intrinsic on 22 August 2016
BraLoD said:
If the PS4 Slim comes priced at $200... that would be insane.

Lol not a chance. That's just Base of materials costs. You still have to add distribution to that. But I won't be surprised at all if it costs them that little to make. 



JRPGfan on 22 August 2016
tak13 said:
From the 357 of fat PS4

http://techinsights.com/uploadedImages/Public_Website/Content_-_Primary/Marketing/2013/PS4_vs_Xbox_One/ps4vsxboxone-bom.jpg

Techinsights had the PS4 at launch to cost 339$ to make.

By now it should be alot lower than that.



tak13 on 22 August 2016
JRPGfan said:
tak13 said:
From the 357 of fat PS4

http://techinsights.com/uploadedImages/Public_Website/Content_-_Primary/Marketing/2013/PS4_vs_Xbox_One/ps4vsxboxone-bom.jpg

Techinsights had the PS4 at launch to cost 339$ to make.

By now it should be alot lower than that.

lol my comment was cut? You understood what I was going to say! hahah



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tak13 on 22 August 2016

From the 357 of fat PS4 to 200 of slim PS4... They could price it at 299 and later cut the price with ease to 249... Wow, playstation 4 at that price? WOW
Anyway, forgive me but it's hard to be so lowin my opinion or that it would fall so much from the og ps4 so early...
Lower than wii u's ( that doesn't count though, because the 80$ are from the tablet controller ) and only 20$ more than the latest ps3 version manufacturing cost?
However, you could be right, I forget that PS4 is getting three years old, PS3's manufacturing cost curtailment in 2009 was huge!

As for the NEO, I find it precise, that's what I would expect and matches with my prediction of 499$ price ( a higher price could be damaging...) !



thismeintiel on 22 August 2016

If those are accurate, then I wouldn't be surprised if the PS4 Slim was launched at $249. I'm still expecting $299, but hoping for $249, as that would crush during the holidays, as well as crush the competition. I think the PS4 Neo is off, though.

I don't expect them to have any better RAM in the Neo, most likely sticking with the same 8GB of GDDR5. Personally, I'm expecting them to up the GPU clock a little and give us 5 Tflops, instead of 4.2 Tflops. I also expect them to launch at $449, with a cut to $399 when the Scorpio's launch is approaching. With the Scorpio probably launching at $499, that would kill any chance it has to catch on with the mainstream. Though, again, I'm hoping they bite any loses, and launch it at $399, with a cut to $349 at the Scorpio launch. It's all ogre then.  Of course, we don't have long to find out.



 

JRPGfan on 22 August 2016
tak13 said:

From the 357 of fat PS4 to 200 of slim PS4... They could price it at 299 and later cut the price with ease to 249... Wow, playstation 4 at that price? WOW
Anyway, forgive me but it's hard to be so lowin my opinion or that it would fall so much from the og ps4 so early...
Lower than wii u's ( that doesn't count though, because the 80$ are from the tablet controller ) and only 20$ more than the latest ps3 version manufacturing cost?
However, you could be right, I forget that PS4 is getting three years old, PS3's manufacturing cost curtailment in 2009 was huge!

As for the NEO, I find it precise, that's what I would expect and matches with my prediction of 499$ price ( a higher price could be damaging...) !

Its about good contracts when your designing the device, and makeing smart choices.

Also buying in huge quantities allows for cheaper individiual costs on components, so if your console is selling well, chances are your getting better deals on the parts that make it up.



iNathan on 22 August 2016

I think Neo will be sold at a low loss with Ps4 Slim making up for the deficit pricing it at 299 would cover that.

Neo is >399e imo.



Intrinsic on 23 August 2016
iNathan said:
I think Neo will be sold at a low loss with Ps4 Slim making up for the deficit pricing it at 299 would cover that.

Neo is >399e imo.

Thats definately one way to do it. And makes a lot of sense. to bring the cost of Neo as low as possible for the consumer. They charge $299 for the PS4s