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DonFerrari on 02 July 2016
Barkley said:
Lawlight said:

You're comparing mobile games with console games. Plus, take Minecraft, for eg. Not compatible with IPhone 4 and older. So, it's not just a matter of saying "this is an IPhone game". It doesn't work on all iPhones.

But if there's never going to be a PlayStation 6 because they're switching over to iterative hardware with full backwards compatibility then why name them "ps5" games for eternity.

Please put in bold letters that this is your opinion.



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Lawlight on 02 July 2016
Barkley said:
Lawlight said:

You're comparing mobile games with console games. Plus, take Minecraft, for eg. Not compatible with IPhone 4 and older. So, it's not just a matter of saying "this is an IPhone game". It doesn't work on all iPhones.

But if there's never going to be a PlayStation 6 because they're switching over to iterative hardware with full backwards compatibility then why name them "ps5" games for eternity.

Because they won't be playable on PS4s, PS3s ,etc.



Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 02 July 2016

Now my question is, will ps4 games work with ps5? If they do than great but if they dont, than I might like MS route better. We will see tho



                  

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barneystinson69 on 02 July 2016

Dont like this at all. If you're making a new console, it should be part of a new gen. It can have compatibility with its predicessor, but it should be defined as a new gen, not a mid-gen upgrade that is needed for the best experience.



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

Barkley on 02 July 2016
barneystinson69 said:

Dont like this at all. If you're making a new console, it should be part of a new gen. It can have compatibility with its predicessor, but it should be defined as a new gen, not a mid-gen upgrade that is needed for the best experience.

What is wrong with the bold? If you don't want to pay more for a better experience then stay with the XBO/PS4 base model, if someone wants to spend more money to have a better experience then they should be able to, it'd be selfish to not want a neo/scorpio because you don't want someone else to have a better experience than you.



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barneystinson69 on 02 July 2016
Barkley said:
barneystinson69 said:

Dont like this at all. If you're making a new console, it should be part of a new gen. It can have compatibility with its predicessor, but it should be defined as a new gen, not a mid-gen upgrade that is needed for the best experience.

What is wrong with the bold? If you don't want to pay more for a better experience then stay with the XBO/PS4 base model, if someone wants to spend more money to have a better experience then they should be able to, it'd be selfish to not want a neo/scorpio because you don't want someone else to have a better experience than you.

I buy a console exactly for this reason. I'm not interesting in upgrading to a piece of hardware thats still does the same as its predicessor. If I wanted that, I'd build a PC and have much more freedom. I have no problem if lifecycles are 4-5 years, but give me a new gen of hardware. 



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

Barkley on 02 July 2016
barneystinson69 said:
Barkley said:

What is wrong with the bold? If you don't want to pay more for a better experience then stay with the XBO/PS4 base model, if someone wants to spend more money to have a better experience then they should be able to, it'd be selfish to not want a neo/scorpio because you don't want someone else to have a better experience than you.

I buy a console exactly for this reason. I'm not interesting in upgrading to a piece of hardware thats still does the same as its predicessor. If I wanted that, I'd build a PC and have much more freedom. I have no problem if lifecycles are 4-5 years, but give me a new gen of hardware. 

Then don't upgrade. Done.



Aura7541 on 02 July 2016
Captain_Yuri said:
Now my question is, will ps4 games work with ps5? If they do than great but if they dont, than I might like MS route better. We will see tho

I bet they will considering there's no way Sony is going to ditch the x84 architecture. If Sony keeps the hardware configuration similar (e.g. keeping a unified RAM pool, but using HBM in place of GDDR5), then there should be few issues achieving backwards compatibility.



Ruler on 02 July 2016
Captain_Yuri said:
Now my question is, will ps4 games work with ps5? If they do than great but if they dont, than I might like MS route better. We will see tho

i highly doubt MS will able to let you play new games for a six years old console generation, at some point you have to make a cut. This is the same on PC, i cant play DX11 games for my 6 years old graphicscard.



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DonFerrari on 02 July 2016
Ruler said:
Captain_Yuri said:
Now my question is, will ps4 games work with ps5? If they do than great but if they dont, than I might like MS route better. We will see tho

i highly doubt MS will able to let you play new games for a six years old console generation, at some point you have to make a cut. This is the same on PC, i cant play DX11 games for my 6 years old graphicscard.

I expect that PS with the X and X.5 versions and Xbox with however they decide to name their interactions will have no more then 2 and streaching 3 during transition versions of the console having games launched to (maybe indies will survive longer)



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."